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    Given that we have children dying of starvation in this country still I also think that pitts should be on the bottom of the list.

    Perhaps if the new laws were designed to ensure that everyone was held responsible for their animals I would support them. Not if you own 'this breed' or 'that breed' then you have to be responsible otherwise hey who cares...

    Yes peter, two deaths due to pure bred pit bulls in this country over the last 32 years. I don't know about you but given there have been dozens of others due to other breeds shouldn't we be addressing the human side PRIOR to the canine side?

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    There are tonnes of better uses for the finances they have set aside for this witch hunt. There are hundreds of innocent dogs that will be caught up in the laws.

    It's a stupid thing for the government to focus on at this point in time anyway.

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    Again using starvation and other causes of death as a distraction for your argument?? Let's keep on track here this is a discussion on irresponsible owners being jailed for having a dog that kills. I don't understand how anyone cannot support such action?? These penalties are targeting the human side. It should cover all dogs regardless of breed.
    This arguments a dead rubber, people can manipulate statistics and even breed descriptions to justify thier opinion however you will never be able to change the perception.
    Last edited by peter70; 09-18-2011 at 03:21 PM.

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    It's basic.. if you have a well behaved dog who accidentally gets out of a usually well contained yard, and gets spooked and bites a passerby, then you wouldn't be charged or jailed.
    If you have a dog, who they prove has been trained for aggression and fighting and not properly contained, THEN you will be taken to court and face jail time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    It's basic.. if you have a well behaved dog who accidentally gets out of a usually well contained yard, and gets spooked and bites a passerby, then you wouldn't be charged or jailed.
    If you have a dog, who they prove has been trained for aggression and fighting and not properly contained, THEN you will be taken to court and face jail time.
    As long as that is what happens I could accept it
    Pets are forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    Your question made me look further and i wished i hadn't. There are some pretty ugly things happening out there. I must admit I had not realised to what extend it is happening OS.

    Pit Bull Attacks and Pit Bull Laws - Advocating on Behalf of Dog Attack Victims - The Official DogsBite.org

    It has a link dog bite statistics, it shows all the different breeds........( in the USA)
    you have to remember that numbers play a part in this, more type of the breed the more attacks of that breed there will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    It's basic.. if you have a well behaved dog who accidentally gets out of a usually well contained yard, and gets spooked and bites a passerby, then you wouldn't be charged or jailed.
    If you have a dog, who they prove has been trained for aggression and fighting and not properly contained, THEN you will be taken to court and face jail time.
    trained for aggression? as in for fighting dogs? dogs are used as a viable and LEGAL tool for personal protection, would you class that as trained in or for aggression?

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    That's the problem Peter.

    It's not targeting all dog owners... It's targeting PURELY those who own registered dangerous and restricted dogs.

    And yes. You want to get up in arms about the little girl who died (yes it is tragic and I am glad the offending dog was pts), but this knee jerk reaction is ridiculous, particularly as the offending dog was a crossbreed.

    Given that mastiffs were bred to protect against human intruders while the pitbull was bred to be friendly to all humans and to be dog aggressive (pretty big difference) wouldn't it be fair to say it is more likely that the attack side came from the mastiff part of it's cross?

    This law does not target all irresponsible owners. That is the problem I have with it.

    I have a huge problem with Breed Specific Legislation too. It is a load of croc. It doesn't help the problem. Only exacerbates it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    trained for aggression? as in for fighting dogs? dogs are used as a viable and LEGAL tool for personal protection, would you class that as trained in or for aggression?
    Most of those have uber responsible owners so I doubt that comes into it - unless they're going to get rid of all of the police, military and customs dogs too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    trained for aggression? as in for fighting dogs? dogs are used as a viable and LEGAL tool for personal protection, would you class that as trained in or for aggression?
    A protection dog should be contained at all times not roaming the streets off lead. In Australia, if you get bitten by a dog entering the property, even without permission, the owner of the dog is liable. It has always been the way.

    Police/working dogs do not get out and attack innocent passers by. I have NEVER heard or read of such a case.

    If dogs are bought and bred for fighting and/or aggressive protection/guard and they get out and attack someone, then the owner should be jailed.
    If you want to protect your house, get a bloody alarm.
    If you want to protect yourself when out and about, you can't walk around with a knife or pepper spray either.

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