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    I agree with Hyacinth in the fact that you need to do something asap before anything happens - which I'm sure your aware of.

    I'm in the process of buying an electric containment fence online (wayyy cheaper) to keep in my houdini furkid. She is not aggressive when she gets out but we live near a national park and I'm paranoid once she gets in I'll never find her. Have you thought about an extra strong electric shock one? Sounds horrible but its more of a shock then a pain.
    I think the enclosed section would be the next best if it could be modified (as Minibull suggested) to have an outside section to. Could also be alot cheaper.
    As for why shes aggressive I cant help you on that one, it sounds like shes been socialised heaps so maybe its just her personality. Does she have any other dogs with her? Or any dog playmates?
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    It's no use having an electric containment fence if someone carelessly leaves the gate open. The OP did not mention the dog making any effort to escape. He only got out because the gate was left open.

    I've been thinking about the change in my old dog with little dogs. I think she calmed down around them mainly because of her getting older - she suddenly loved puppies in her old age, very cute. Funnily enough her best friend for a few years was a Jack Russel (they shared a backyard and I used to walk them together). She even helped her raise her pups at one stage.

    Are there any small dogs at training?

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    I have noticed when we go for a walk people have got one of these tyoes of fence/barrier around the edge of their yard.
    This yard in the side and front of their house and is fully contained. And I didn't understand wy they had it in place but I soon worked it out.
    The fence is about a meter or so from the actual fence.
    And thye have got it in place to stop the dogs from going to it to rush at the local zoo creatures at the end of school.
    So this little mugs must have been teasing the dog and they knew they had to stop it.
    And to me this was a responcible thing to do wwhen her dogs were not at fault. but the local zoo kids were.
    One is a powerderpuff type of dog and the other is well I think a cross Ridgeback.
    And when we walk pass the big dog just wants to say hello as we have always talked to it nicely and she knows that we mean her no harm.

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    The entertainment system would still work if the gate was open. And Noodle mentioned something about fences falling down?? or did I imagine that.. could happen
    So this could be the all round easiest way, and not too expensive actually as I just bought one under warrenty for $100 online. Maybe if it was a metre in from the fence as Rid suggested it would deter her enough to stop? Even if she was in a huge rush?

    But Beloz is right in asking if there are any small dogs at training?

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    Thanks again for all the input. Yep, the fence fell down in that crazy storm we had a few weeks ago - the back section fell into my neighbours yard. The only other time she has managed to get out is when the gate was left open by the builder.

    Yes there is quite a few small dogs at training - and when we are there she isn't fazed by them at all. I've discussed it with my trainer who agrees its a territorial thing, and I've 'broken' her territorial mark over me at training, she knows its not acceptable there so doesn't react to any dog! But at home, I'm her 'territory' so she doesn't like other dogs coming up to me, or seemingly 'rushing' me as we get when we run - she's better if they are well trained and not straining their leads. He said she doesn't act like this when we meet new dogs on our property (say I invite a friend and dog over) as I'm activly telling her that this is ok, and as I'm the alpha dog and letting another dog in it must be ok. (Does that make sense? He explained it so much better!!!)

    We've decided the best solution at this stage is what one of the posters suggested above - modifying the shed-like structure to have a bit of a run attached. We decided not to go with the electric barrier fence, as if she were to get out, it then prevents her from getting back in which is something I don't want to discourage. I'm also going to invest in an electric collar to use when we are running to try to teach her rushing other dogs is not on. And possibly running with a muzzle so people that think it's okay to have their dog off at an on leash park 'becasue he is super friendly, and he won't hurt a fly' will avoid us and not let their dog run up to say hi.

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    I don't know which state you live in but electronic collars are illegal in NSW and a few others.

    I would never use something like that on my dog, but then I don't use any punishment in my training. I'm a big fan of letting the dog know what they are supposed to do instead of telling them what not to do. Which is more in line with modern day theories on dog training, I believe. So I would reward my dog for staying close to me, looking at me and/or keeping the lead slack in such situations.

    Good luck with it all.

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    I actually downloaded a training dvd/video about this trainer in America.
    He is all for these eletric shock collar's, and he even sell them at his place as he is a full time trainer to cop dogs there.
    I wish I never took the time to watch it as what I noticed was he done a lot of thing so the dog would fail so he could correct it.
    The dog or dogs didn't want to do the wrong thing and you could see them sitting there and waiting so he called them then admiinistered punishment.
    I will not name him just incase I get in trouble but I would never take a dog to him.

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    I know a few people who used the electric containment system for their dogs, and mostly because the actual fences and gates were not dog proof. It does require taking some time to train the dog to understand how to "escape" safely ie retreat when the collar activates - set off by sensors in the "fence". If a dog is not trained adequately, it may bolt through the sensor zone and out the other side and not be able to return.

    Depending on how "collar smart" the dog gets, using the collar and having the fence on, may only be needed for a month or so.

    If the dog gets collar smart - ie figures out it only needs to stay home when the special collar is on, then there is more of a problem.

    My dog is very sensitive to what collar is for what. She knows that at home we mostly don't have a collar at all, and when we go for a walk it's the council tag collar, and when we do agility, its the reflective collar, and she hides or gets excited accordingly.

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    In some states you can only use the electronic collar as part of the containment system, so using it on walks would also be illegal. Is the use of electronic dog collars legal? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

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    Possibly the best option with electronic dog collars - is not to tell people you're using one. Citronella collars look about the same.

    In SA if you're caught using one by the dog club or SACA you're banned from all their events. Ie agility and obedience and dog showing.

    I just wish there were some better studies that could compare different types of dog collars and training tools and decide which ones did the least harm physically and emotionally to the dog.

    Ie I think that for some things the choke collar is much worse than the electronic collar, though now I know what I know, I'd avoid both. It's nuts that ANKC / SACA approve of the choke collar but think that a limited zap e-collar is bad.

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