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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    We were having such a constructive discussion in this thread about alternatives to BSL which could benefit everyone. But you just skipped all that completely to add some random comment about the number of pitbulls.

    I don't know what your agenda is, but can you please try to not hijack posts by responding to old comments. We were having a conversation, which you quite rudely interrupted.
    Is this directed at me? You asked they question http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...tml#post138252 in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipps View Post
    Not sure if we are still discussing BSL....But following on from earlier replies......



    Been some great ideas posted here guys and am learning stacks.

    So what do you feel needs priority to help reduce attacks?



    Here’s my thoughts in a nutshell........


    1. Socialisation (for dog) = Yes

    2. Basic obedience (for dog) = Yes

    3. Obtaining a licence in handling skills to own a dog? = Yes & No
    Not fussed on this idea for everyone. Perhaps only for those that have a nuisance dog or other reasons deemed valid for the dog and publics benefit.

    4. Dog awareness education for the general public, especially school age. = Yes
    I think the conditions to socialise and give your dog basic obedience training is similar to a licencing system? The suggestion was that without proof that you’ve taken your dog to training and/or passed a training/socialisation test, you would not be able to register your dog.

    For nuisance/dangerous dogs, I think there should be a requirement to have an assessment done by a qualified dog behaviourist – at the owner’s expense. Not sure where to go from there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    Is this directed at me? You asked they question http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...tml#post138252 in this forum.
    Actually that was reyzor not Beloz.

    Beloz was wondering why you went back 4 or 5 pages to answer an old question when we had clearly moved on from that.

    In all honesty there is absolutely no way to accurately tell the number of "pitbulls" in Australia. Because it would depend on if you were counting "pitbull types" or just pure APBT and their direct crosses and even then as the breed is restricted or banned in most places of Aus you will just not get an accurate figure. Not to mention all the idiots who say they have a PB when they have some random cross which could pass as a PB.

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    As at January 2010 there were 335 restricted breed dogs in Victoria.
    ref Research brief Number 6
    May 2010

    Domestic Animals Amendment (Dangerous Dogs) Bill 2010
    microchip identification registry declarations by owners suggest that there are several times that number of this type of dog in the community that are registered as another almost identical breed.

    This is the American staffordshire terrier for those that do not know what the meaning is. and X's of American Staffordshire Terrier(AST), this is where the newspapers got the numbers from. The 10,000 number is pulled from thin air And is attributed to Dr Smith of the Lost dogs home who said that there are about 10,000 dangerous Pit Bull Terrier types in Victoria.

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    K. Ryan & A. Gardiner (2009) ‘Brumby gives councils a licence to kill’, Herald Sun, 20 October, p. 5. See also Lost Dogs Home (2009) ‘Call to declare all “pit bull types” dangerous’, media release, 20 October.

    Beau.

    Dangerous dog register is separate from this and is used to identify actual declared dangerous dogs within the community.
    Last edited by Beau; 09-12-2011 at 01:31 PM.
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    I'd like to see. compulsory registration, training for the new owner and desexing would see a reduction in most problems. The prospective owner should have to present a cetificate of attendence to a training course within the first year. Dog ownership needs to be looked at as a responsibility. This would put off most of the ratbag and whim owners. Hefty fines for noncompliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    I'd like to see. compulsory registration, training for the new owner and desexing would see a reduction in most problems. The prospective owner should have to present a cetificate of attendence to a training course within the first year. Dog ownership needs to be looked at as a responsibility. This would put off most of the ratbag and whim owners. Hefty fines for noncompliance.
    Finally something we do agree on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I think the conditions to socialise and give your dog basic obedience training is similar to a licencing system? The suggestion was that without proof that you’ve taken your dog to training and/or passed a training/socialisation test, you would not be able to register your dog.

    For nuisance/dangerous dogs, I think there should be a requirement to have an assessment done by a qualified dog behaviourist – at the owner’s expense. Not sure where to go from there though.
    I was suggesting two different things. Owners needing to do a responsible dog ownership course to get a license and then an obedience test to be able to register a dog - and i think this test should be done by a qualified dog behaviourist.

    As for nuisance dogs - council ranger inspects living conditions upon complaint(not sure how else you can control that)

    As for dangerous dogs - i think current requirements are adequate for dogs that are actually dangerous

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    I just looked up dog behaviourists where I am. I would have to travel 4 1/2 hours to Canberra or much further to Melb or Sydney.

    If it was a requirement of law to have dogs passed by one for registration do you think it fair that it will disadvantage many country owners or prospective owners?

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I just looked up dog behaviourists where I am. I would have to travel 4 1/2 hours to Canberra or much further to Melb or Sydney.

    If it was a requirement of law to have dogs passed by one for registration do you think it fair that it will disadvantage many country owners or prospective owners?
    Interesting point ... hmmmm

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    That's why all this is city centric and will never be viable. Many people with many dogs are even more isolated to these things that Di is.
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