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    Just wanted to clarify what i was proposing. It is that either you put your dog through training to get a certificate of training or you submit your dog to a test to show you have trained it to an appropriate standard by yourself. I don't want to go to dog training to do something that i can do myself and is all part and parcel of bonding with a new dog. However, if my dog didn't pass said test, i should be required to then take professional help

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    This is a good point. Maybe a points thing could be worked out.
    And if you choose to keep your dog entirer then maybe add to them to gain more points by making it do other things so to prove it wont rip your head off.
    I don't know I am just a perso sitting at the kitchen table doing this and think with my fingers.
    Though I am fully willing to have a test of some degree for new dog owners. If it was to help keep these attacks from happening then bring it in now.
    If it is to bring in money to the councils then make sure it is worth while test.
    Mybe an aptitude test on owners before they get a dog like aaai know some companies do now on people to see if they are suited to the job.

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    A few people have mentioned working dogs, and how they should be exempt from any laws as i've proposed. I 100% disagree! If your "working" dog won't come when called or obey basic instruction, it sure gonna be one useless working dog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    A few people have mentioned working dogs, and how they should be exempt from any laws as i've proposed. I 100% disagree! If your "working" dog won't come when called or obey basic instruction, it sure gonna be one useless working dog!
    Sometimes though, as been mentioned before that prey drive, the herding instinct can over ride any recall training.
    Not all would be able to conform.

    I choose to not test this by having mine in their big dog yard.
    That is the easy fix, yes, but it works and they are happy.

    Mine are only *cough* working dogs and any laws that come in I could slip through the cracks.

    Mine are trained to the level that I want with them so to me that is all that matters.

    If they go to the vet they are always on lead.
    They have never been working dogs.

    No blanket laws will work for all.

    Yes I would comply with any that came in but just saying.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    All of ours were working dogs and could be taken anywhere...Recalls were great. They were super obedient and knew, "behind" was with us.

    But I have met many that would work well naturally, but not listen all that well away from stock.

    I thought if there was to be a law, it would be for everyone.
    Pets are forever

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    I personally would not mind that much if dogs on rural properties would be exempt. But I don't feel strongly about it either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Sometimes though, as been mentioned before that prey drive, the herding instinct can over ride any recall training.
    Not all would be able to conform.
    sorry but i completely disagree with this statement. I grew up on a farm, i grew up around real working dogs. Any dog that would allow it's herding instinct to override a command would not be a viable working dog. I could tell my dog to sit and stay in a paddock with sheep in it, and he would stay there until i was out of sight(hundreds of metres away, behind bushes) before he would move .. and even then he would stalk me, trying not to be seen until i'd given him an ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I personally would not mind that much if dogs on rural properties would be exempt. But I don't feel strongly about it either way.
    imo exempting dogs on rural properties just opens a can of worms. Do i like the fact that we need to look at laws like this? NO. But what other alternative do we have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    From a training point of view.........The well socialized dog that do not sit and drop are easy to deal with and no-ones worry. It is the under or not socialized dogs that are the issue.
    Re socialisation...

    Just quoted a small section newfsie...

    That reply was brilliant.

    It put a new angle on this subject for me, as in work on our dogs social skills with people and other dogs etc. It also helps the owner learn how to read a dog.

    I honestly feel most dogs and pups can learn social skills just fine by themselves. But some people want to control how they go about it. Confuses the dog.

    Like pulling away when they sniff bums, or mount, or encouraging to greet other dog or person when dropped but in a playful manner.

    Basic sit, stay, drop and come training are what I use at home during play, feeding.

    Did any of that makes sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipps View Post
    I honestly feel most dogs and pups can learn social skills just fine by themselves. But some people want to control how they go about it. Confuses the dog.
    That reminds me of those little old ladies who pick their lapdog up in a panicky way when they see another dog a mile away. And then say: "My dog's aggressive to other dogs". Well no sh!t, Sherlock! Of course he's going to be aggressive if you teach him all other dogs are to be feared.

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