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    Watching with baited breath also.

    Boof is papered Amstaff, Lilly has no papers but is his full sister. Will have certificate from vet for her if need ever be though.
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    Today 08:45 AM
    reyzor anyone have a rough idea of how many pitbull and pitbull crosses there are in aus?
    Apart from collating every single local government council in Australia's registrations for pit bull and pitbull X's to get a very rough estimate, that will only show those which have been registered as Pit and pit X's. The reality is no one would ever know at all.

    The same could be said for any breed and X of a breed also.

    Today 09:25 AM
    Shelby-001 Watching with baited breath also.

    Boof is papered Amstaff, Lilly has no papers but is his full sister. Will have certificate from vet for her if need ever be though.
    That is good, I would suggest keeping a laminated copy of Lilly's cert in your wallet as well. Incase insanity strikes, you never know.
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    Its so sad that its come to this. I hate the fact that our Government can be so narrow minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby-001 View Post
    Watching with baited breath also.

    Boof is papered Amstaff, Lilly has no papers but is his full sister. Will have certificate from vet for her if need ever be though.
    Hmmm I am sketchy on the vet certificates. A friend here in QLD still had the council try to declare her dog a Pitbull even though she had a vet cert saying she was something else. They overrule the vet certs.

    Why doesn't Lilly have papers? Can you contact the breeder and try to get papers? The other option you have is having her DNA tested and matched to her parents and Boof who are registered Amstaffs.

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    Double thumbs up for paternal/sibling DNA. That's the ticket to make absolute sure any unregoed amstaff proof of breeding. If any one says paternal DNA is not an identifier they should take a short walk of a tall building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Hmmm I am sketchy on the vet certificates. A friend here in QLD still had the council try to declare her dog a Pitbull even though she had a vet cert saying she was something else. They overrule the vet certs.
    Why doesn't Lilly have papers? Can you contact the breeder and try to get papers? The other option you have is having her DNA tested and matched to her parents and Boof who are registered Amstaffs.
    Not any more they don't K & P, if a vet certifies your dog is a certain breed it is now LAW that the vet is right, I am correct in this, the law was changed to add this after the current laws were updated a couple of years ago.

    All anyone in QLD need do is find a vet who will state that their dog is this or that breed rather than a PB and it is, by law NOT a PB in QLD.

    I never saw any article saying ohh well that was the second or third child that dog killed,

    It is always a one off when it comes to killing, there may have been ignored warnings, threats or less serious attacks, but quite often owners will swear their dog would not hurt a flea prior to a death or serious attack.

    Many family tradgedies happen because people do not know their dogs, or realise what silly things their own or other kids might do.

    The fact that poor kids are dying from other means in no way makes it acceptable for the odd one to be torn apart by dogs.

    I too have big dogs, I love them and want to keep them, if this means complying with laws to help keep kids safe from those who may not have kid safe dogs then so be it, it is a long way better than big dogs being banned, it will NOT just be PB if it comes to this because they are NOT head of the real serious attack statistics.

    No where near it even, and serious attacks in QLD are rising.

    It has to be stopped and if we want our big dogs it will pay us to get very serious about control of them, I am not ranting at you either KP, just in general,

    I have no doubt that most posters on here are good dog owners and do keep their dogs safe, and therefore do not want more rules to obey but it may come down to do it or get rid of your dogs no matter how well behaved most are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minibulls mum View Post
    Not any more they don't K & P, if a vet certifies your dog is a certain breed it is now LAW that the vet is right, I am correct in this, the law was changed to add this after the current laws were updated a couple of years ago.

    All anyone in QLD need do is find a vet who will state that their dog is this or that breed rather than a PB and it is, by law NOT a PB in QLD.

    I never saw any article saying ohh well that was the second or third child that dog killed,

    It is always a one off when it comes to killing, there may have been ignored warnings, threats or less serious attacks, but quite often owners will swear their dog would not hurt a flea prior to a death or serious attack.

    Many family tradgedies happen because people do not know their dogs, or realise what silly things their own or other kids might do.

    The fact that poor kids are dying from other means in no way makes it acceptable for the odd one to be torn apart by dogs.

    I too have big dogs, I love them and want to keep them, if this means complying with laws to help keep kids safe from those who may not have kid safe dogs then so be it, it is a long way better than big dogs being banned, it will NOT just be PB if it comes to this because they are NOT head of the real serious attack statistics.

    No where near it even, and serious attacks in QLD are rising.

    It has to be stopped and if we want our big dogs it will pay us to get very serious about control of them, I am not ranting at you either KP, just in general,

    I have no doubt that most posters on here are good dog owners and do keep their dogs safe, and therefore do not want more rules to obey but it may come down to do it or get rid of your dogs no matter how well behaved most are.
    As I said I have no qualms with complying to further laws, I just do not feel those laws should punish my dog by including ridiculous enclosures and muzzling in public. I am quite happy to attend education programs, to pass tests for licensing, to lifetime register my dog etc, the laws they have in Calgary are working and I would be more than happy to comply by those laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Hmmm I am sketchy on the vet certificates. A friend here in QLD still had the council try to declare her dog a Pitbull even though she had a vet cert saying she was something else. They overrule the vet certs.

    Why doesn't Lilly have papers? Can you contact the breeder and try to get papers? The other option you have is having her DNA tested and matched to her parents and Boof who are registered Amstaffs.
    Lilly has no papers because the breeder is a D*(KH&^D!

    When we adopted them we knew Boof had papers and I have had them transferred into my name. However, Lilly's litter was not registered as he got his bitch into pup in consecutive seasons and as breeders know this is against the CCCQ guidelines. I rang and asked him to register the litter and he refused. So I rang CCCQ to find out what I could do. After talking to them, I rang and told the breeder I had discussed it with CCCQ and they wouldn't issue a warning as it was a once off and I also offered to pay for the registration of ALL the pups in the litter so we could get Lilly's papers and he still refused. At that point there was nothing more I could do!

    So a vet cert we will get and if push ever comes to shove we will have dna tests done on Boof n Lilly! I don't know that I'd ever get the parents though.

    We live in a small town though and our laws officers actually have a brain and the general population to be honest, probably wouldn't even know these laws are being discussed and couldn't care less what breed a dog is as long as it's happy n friendly. I'm not naive enough to think this is a safety net by any means BUT we are certainly in a different climate than you guys living in much larger and more metropolitan centres.
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    K & P It is most likely that something similar the Calgary is all you and all of us need do, the ideas being thrown about by media and on forums is just a very big maybe, not fact.
    Media hype is not to be trusted

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    With all these new laws to come into the dog owners world, I can honestly see this turning into the fact that a Licence to own a dog.
    Then this will give those in power the rights to come to your hime to look it over.
    If they find something is needed before you can take you delivery of the pup to your home. Has to be done and then rechecked.
    In this it will bring in more revenue to the local council or who ever is going to be incharge of this.
    A licence to own a dog is something I will agree with as I think it is time to get the riff raff out of dog ownership. But this will only make this so called riff raff go further underground.
    I really don't know how thiungs are going to turn out but I can see this becoming law real soon.
    It is the only logical step that they can follow next. So beware.

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