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    Hey.. I hope I get some advise with a couple of issues we currently have.

    My lab girl Jazz has developed a bad habbit of breaking out on a daily basis. We moved into our new home about a year ago and it is getting worse and worse. She diggs under the front fence.. powders and spays dont help.. poo mining helps a little while.. putting massive logs there helps only up until she calls in the muscle a.k.a. my giant Ridgeback Mack. On the sidefence she ripps out fence pailings. We do have to replace the whole fence line, but financially we just cant do it right now.. it ll have to wait a little. We tried an electric fence but the current isnt strong enough to bother her when she is in her frenzy ripping on the pailings. And to make matters worse one of the neighbours feeds her when she breaks out, he spoils her and he just ignores our disliking of him doing so. Most neighbours have been great so far, letting her back in when she sits in front of our gate waiting. Sometimes the Ridgey gets out too and a cute lab being out is one thing, but my 80+ kg Ridgey is a different matter.. he is friendly and all, but I couldnt blame people being scared by his size and calling the ranger.
    We found out a while ago that Mack barks sometimes, a friendly neighbour told us. Now somebody filled out a suggested letter from the council letting us know he is a nuisance and that he barks at 5.30 AM for no apparent reason. I know that he is not an excessive barker, but given his size he has a mighty bark and even his play bark is very load. I dont think that anybody wants to really get us into trouble, they all know we look after our dogs, walk them heaps and don't mean to bother anyone.

    I am now thinking to get a voice recoder and record the mornings, to hear how bad it is. Anybody ever tried that? We now give them bones and chews in the morning, to occupy them when we go.. but then I wonder if Mack then barks and sooks at the door not realizing we have left for work and wanting back in. And well, a Ridgey can be quite persistent.

    And with our lab, she will spend her first day tied up tomorrow. My boyfriend went out and bought them both harnesses, but that doesnt work, so she is now tied up on her collar. I am not happy about it at all, but I dont know what else to do. Anybody got any suggestions?

    Edit: I should mention we live at the end of a quiet close and one worry we dont not have to have when the dogs get out is that they could get hurt in traffic.
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    Hi. Your neighbour who is feeding her when she breaks out HAS to be told that he is only reinforcing and rewarding her for doing so.

    Regarding fence lines we all have the responsibility of containing our dogs. Can you get a loan to get this done?

    I understand tieing up your dog is a last resort but this can't be a long term thing.
    Are there 2 trees that a wire can be run between so she can be chained to that but get more movement?

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    Double post.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    put contret around the fance lines and put some chancken wire up aroun the wood
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    hmm.. I have thought about the chicken wire too.. my boyfriend was concerned she would hurt herself when she ripps at it.
    The fences are happening, but both sides are shared and the back one is shared with 3 properties, so its a lengthy process, we cant just go and do it this weekend.. it ll take a few weeks. And the one fence that our lab is hammering was already in a very bad shape. On old guy rents over there, he s been there for 15 years and we looked up the rental agreement. The landlord can make him pay 100% for the fence, so we dont know yet how to approach that one, as I doubt that he ll have the money for a new fence to be put up. We thought if the landlord is not gonna pay for half we'll just offer the old boy that we'll build it, if he can put in a little for the material.

    OH and what I forgot to mention before, we hadn't realized how often she gets out, as neighbours let her back in.. its only now that the one neighbour that feeds her told us how she comes over every day at least once.

    I know I will have to talk to him, we have told him before that we dont like it when he comes over and gives them leftovers, to please ask us first.. he said he would, but the other friendly neighbour told me he still comes over and gives them stuff sometimes (he feeds doggy treats to the magpies and then gives some to our dogs apparently).

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    First, how is your Ridgey 80kgs?

    Second, put a lock on your gate to keep your neighbours out. That is essentially trespassing, especially if they have been told not to feed your dogs.


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    I think the dog is visiting the neighbour - not the other way about.

    LizSpies
    Dogs can travel more than just your street. I've known a couple to travel in the order of 50km in a day - so as long as you have no cars with in 50km or farmers with guns, your dog would be safe enough from traffic. Otherwise - trouble.

    If it was my dog, I'd be locking her in the house or shed when I was out. I have a crate I put my dog in when she was a puppy before she was quite house trained, and still prone to chewing what she should not. Now she gets to sleep on the couch when I'm out - though sometimes she still opts for the crate.

    Occasionally my dog barks at 5:30am - there have been a lot of birds starting up at that time lately - spring season and all that. And sometimes cats. But there is no way she could bark and I not know it because she's next to my bed at night.

    Find a way to keep your dogs home or I'm worried something horrible will happen to them. From being caught by the ranger - and you up for fines, and the big one being declared a "pitbull" under the new horror laws in Victoria.

    It would help if you had your mobile phone number on your dogs' collars and that they both be microchipped, and I suggest giving your mobile contact details to your neighbours so they can contact you if there is a problem.

    The neighbour next door - might actually be a help in terms of dog sitting. If he likes your dog and she likes him - why not have him mind her while you are out. Just make sure you deduct her treats from her dinner ration. Maybe supply the neighbour with suitable treats and tell him she gets tummy upsets on other stuff.

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    @Sierra: He is not pure-bred. His dad was pure, his mum had one grandparent Rottweiler. His mum looked Ridgey, just a bit big for a bitch. Don't know, he just grew and grew.. He was a fairly big pup, but not even the vet can believe how big he ended up being. Last time there, about half a year ago he was 83kg. His shots are due soon, then I ll weigh him again.

    lol.. if I had gotten a dollar everytime I heard "where s your saddle" or "did you bring your pony", then the fences would be done easily.

    @Hyacinth: We used to leave the lab inside in our last place before we had Mack, same deal, she would snooze on the coach all day, we tried the same with Mack (first we didnt have to cuz I worked evenings for a while and they were only outside for only half an hour til my boyfriend was home) but he runs a mock in the house.
    And the barking, thats when we ve left for work. Its four days a week that we re both out early morning til about 4pm. I have a feeling that they just play. They sleep in our bedroom, super cozy and then at 5.15 AM or so we feed them and when we leave I think they are just so right awake outside they start playing and he barks at her when they play. I now try settling them in their outside beds before I leave.. and we give them bones and chews to occupy them. I ll try recording them and I figure out by his barking what he is doing. They are both micro chipped but adding our mobile numbers to their tags on the collar is a good idea. Just in case. And getting our neighbour to mind her is something I never thought of, but a pretty good idea.. I m actually not home for another few days, just getting updates from my boyfriend as to how many fence pailings he replaced and today he told me about the letter. Doesn't help I m not there.

    I dont know.. its been slowly been building up and now the fence is stuffed just before we can afford new ones, one neighbour is about to complain to the council about Macks barking (worries me a little with all that stuff happening, I mean he is a family pet, well sozialized and all, but if a stranger walks up our driveway he is a bit freightening, just his size. But he s only like that to strangers when we re home)..

    I m just running out of ideas. I just want them to be safe and happy. Jazz being tied up can only be a temporary solution, but at least she is safe..

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