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    i've purchased a pure bred golden retriever earlier this year (cause i'm a sucker for them and have loved them all my life) and he was sold on registered on the limited register and i know this means you can't breed or show them. then my partner said to me the other night 'but who is to stop you breeding them ?! it's your dog and you can do what you like.' so typical of his type of comments !

    he just said you could still breed with him but those pups couldn't be registered and they would just not be worth as much ... which made me think ... is this true ? could you do that ?

    i don't have any intentions of breeding or showing anyway ... just obedience. but it made me curious ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldielover View Post
    it's your dog and you can do what you like.' so typical of his type of comments !
    So he probably replies "Nanny state!" when you tell him that in most states you will get fined for having an entire dog without a permit?

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    I would think that you could do whatever you wanted wih them. Someone could correct me if I am wrong but i think your partner is right!
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    Yes, you can breed from her but the pups can't be registered unless the co-owner (ie breeder) signs the papers. Hubby is right.

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    OH is right, but then technically your a Back yard breeder

    unless breeding to better the breed, then i dont see the point, there is no need to fill the alreadly flooded pet market.
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    ok thanks for all this. wow i didn't know about needing a permit for an entire dog ? we've had two entire boys in QLD and never had a permit ... now i'm in NSW and he is just on 6 months of age so now is the time to get him registered and it costs more for an entire dog than a de-sexed male... i'm going to google the entire permit thing now ...

    so this whole topic we had came from the question i asked to desex or not ? he says no because i think he would like him so sire pups at some stage even if they can't be registered. his argument was that i spent so much for him anyway so it would be a waste to have him de-sexed ... the only reason he de-sexed his big dog was because he only dropped one testicle.

    is it more a male thing of not wanting to de-sex male dogs ? because our two boys we had in the past my dad never wanted to fix them. we never bred from them (which was a shame as they were on the main register and beautiful boys.) and each time i brought it up with dad (in passing from the vets comments about prostate cancer etc.) he tactifully changed the subject.

    now this is what other half does ... so it is sensitive for guys ??? his comment was, "ohwhat... so you're worried about him getting prostate cancer and want to fix him.what about me? gonna fix me ??" and i was like ... whoa calm down boy. you are made to have children one day ... puppy dog probably not."

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    Dogs are sold on limited register for a reason. Whatever that reason was, his breeder felt he was not suitable to breed from.

    You can apply to have limited registration can be changed to open register to my knowledge. Conact your breeder and discuss the idea with them. They are your best bet to advise what his breeding potential maybe and they can also assist with changing his registration if he is suitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    So he probably replies "Nanny state!" when you tell him that in most states you will get fined for having an entire dog without a permit?
    Which state/s have this law?? Given that dog laws are run by individual councils NOT by state government I find this a bit hard to believe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldielover View Post
    ok thanks for all this. wow i didn't know about needing a permit for an entire dog ? we've had two entire boys in QLD and never had a permit ... now i'm in NSW and he is just on 6 months of age so now is the time to get him registered and it costs more for an entire dog than a de-sexed male... i'm going to google the entire permit thing now ...

    so this whole topic we had came from the question i asked to desex or not ? he says no because i think he would like him so sire pups at some stage even if they can't be registered. his argument was that i spent so much for him anyway so it would be a waste to have him de-sexed ... the only reason he de-sexed his big dog was because he only dropped one testicle.

    is it more a male thing of not wanting to de-sex male dogs ? because our two boys we had in the past my dad never wanted to fix them. we never bred from them (which was a shame as they were on the main register and beautiful boys.) and each time i brought it up with dad (in passing from the vets comments about prostate cancer etc.) he tactifully changed the subject.

    now this is what other half does ... so it is sensitive for guys ??? his comment was, "ohwhat... so you're worried about him getting prostate cancer and want to fix him.what about me? gonna fix me ??" and i was like ... whoa calm down boy. you are made to have children one day ... puppy dog probably not."

    hehe
    It is definitely a boy thing. They're inherently protective of their nuts and those of other males around. It's also entirely up to YOU as his owner to make the decision on whether to desex or not. I'm sure Hya will come along and post some awesome links for you to share with your partner about BYB's.

    Also in out litigious society I'd be wary about breeding anything - never know who will try to sue you for something well out of your control.

    He is on Limited Register for a reason - that reason is not so you can go and breed with him anyway - as Anne said, speak to his breeder about it and see how you go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelanBatty View Post
    Which state/s have this law?? Given that dog laws are run by individual councils NOT by state government I find this a bit hard to believe?
    Yeah sorry, I did do a Google and realised that that was the case, but didn't go back to change the post.

    It's true in the ACT, but obviously that is not a good yardstick!

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