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    I'm always drunk BL, but yes, danielle pretty well explained what I mean. Without having the opinion and feedback from a judge and your peers it's hard to know how good your dog 'really' is sometimes.
    I am the opposite, I am perhaps a little too critical of my dogs faults (even though I love them to bits) but there are some people who are "blind" to the problems their dog really has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Registered with what or whom?
    Sorry, not sure if reyzor has seen this. I feel an important point needs to be made about 'registered' breeders.

    Most people think of registered breeders being ANKC registered. What of racing registries? Working registries? Even breeds such as the Mini Foxy are not ANKC registered breeds. There is also the Labradoodle registry (agree with the breed or not, they do have a registry and breeders have to be registered) and there is also a private registry under the MDBA.

    The ANKC is not the be all and end all to breeding in Australia.

    The term 'registered' breeder is an ambiguous term.
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    To me "registered" means ANKC Registered.
    Any other registry and it should state "XXX Working Dog Registry" or "XXX Racing Registered"
    Or... just to get my dig in "Phony Designer Mutt Registry".

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    I've seen dogs advertised as from "registered" breeders. But they're registered with the local city council or they're breeding cross breeds on the side from their "registered" dogs, ie ANKC should expell them for breaching the rules. And the puppies won't be registered. The way they get around this is to say the registration fee is almost as much as the purchase fee - so most pet owners won't pay it or they say they will think about it or the breeder says I will get the papers and then does nothing at all.

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    It is up to what you want a dog for weather or not registration matters to you, as far as working dog people and their buyers go most do not care about ANKC registration in fact many avoid such dogs because conformation shows are just that, no ability to do whatever a breed was bred to do need be proven, just need to be up to the standard in looks.

    Show record is NOT the best way to judge a working dog.

    Temperament tests for all dogs should certainly be mandatory for all breeders no matter what registry they are in, basic health tests be mandatory too but most registries do not require this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelanBatty View Post
    Which state/s have this law?? Given that dog laws are run by individual councils NOT by state government I find this a bit hard to believe?
    Just wanted to clarify this point.



    State Government sets the legislation (laws) ...(EG: NSW Companion Animals Act)

    Local government authorities (Councils) enforce the state legislation.

    The funds for dog registration from LGA's are forwarded to the state government.

    Any other fees, fines, sale proceeds etc are retained by that LGA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    To me "registered" means ANKC Registered.
    Any other registry and it should state "XXX Working Dog Registry" or "XXX Racing Registered"
    Or... just to get my dig in "Phony Designer Mutt Registry".
    Therefore, you wouldn't recommend someone to buy a Mini Foxy, even if papered?

    You wouldn't say to someone looking for a Mini Foxy "buy from a breeder who is registered with the Mini Foxy Club would you? You would most likely say "go to a registered breeder".... which means what exactly? The Mini Foxy is not recognised by the ANKC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I've seen dogs advertised as from "registered" breeders. But they're registered with the local city council or they're breeding cross breeds on the side from their "registered" dogs, ie ANKC should expell them for breaching the rules. And the puppies won't be registered. The way they get around this is to say the registration fee is almost as much as the purchase fee - so most pet owners won't pay it or they say they will think about it or the breeder says I will get the papers and then does nothing at all.
    Yes, exactly. Registered breeder could also mean a breeding business registered with local Council. I have seen it used this way. Persoanlly, I believe we need to change the mantra. Saying 'buy from a registered breeder' simply doesn't cut it.
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    When have I ever said "buy from a registered breeder".

    I have always said to buy from a REPUTABLE breeder. Big difference.
    Reputable can include cross breds or unrecognized breeds, I just prefer to buy and recommend other people buy from show or working kennels to ensure the breeder is actually breeding to some sort of standard, not just pumping out pups for the pet market... that just happens to also mean registered with the ANKC.

    If people want a working dog, then of course, I would recommend working registries instead, and with both recommend to research breeders first before purchase.

    I don't know about the Mini Foxy Club. Are they actively trying to get the breed recognized? If they are then yes, I would recommend people buy from them. If they are just a Club that follows a standard with no intention of breed recognition then no, I wouldn't.

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    They tried for may years, but the ANKC took on the Tenterfield instead or in spite of? The MF will never be recognised by them I don't think.
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