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    Amstaff and Pitbull look the same.

    That's yet another reason why visual ids suck.

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    Amstaff and Pitbull are from the same lines. Amstaffs were bred from Pitbulls back in the 1930's so the AKC would register them (AKC refused to register a dog with Pitbull in the name). Amstaffs have not been outcrossed with any other breed of dog but they have been bred to be a little bit stockier than the original game bred Pitbulls. The only difference between the two breeds is 80 years of show breeding in the Amstaffs. You can even dual register dogs in the US as Amstaffs and APBT.

    In answer to the OP - No not all dogs with deep yellow eyes are Pitbulls, that is just plain silly. Not all dogs with yellow eyes and red noses are pitbulls. The red colour and the yellow eyes are actual a dilute and can happen in a fair few breeds.
    The only bull breed dog with a Roman Nose is a Bull Terrier and Miniature Bull Terrier and a few of the hound breeds (greyhound, Salukis etc) also have them.


    Bull Arab is not a recognised breed of dog and actually isn't a specific cross breed of dogs it can be any mix of several bull breeds, mastiffs and Great Danes etc, there is no set combination. It really just refers to crossbreed dogs bred by pig hunters.

    Keira in my siggy is actually what you would classify as a "Bull Arab" and she is a mix of Bull Mastiff, Great Dane, Ridgeback, Fox Hound, and probably a few other things and came from a litter of Pig Dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Lala

    Amstaff and Pitbull look the same.

    That's yet another reason why visual ids suck.
    Umm thanks for that......I know what they look like....

    And personally, I find Am Staffs to be a bit thicker (build) than a pitty but yea...

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    Yes, An Amstaff is a papered Pitty.

    They re-opened the Amstaff books to infuse a fresh dose of APBT blood in the 70's so we are still looking at a comaparitevely young 'different' breed.

    A 'good' Amstaff should still look athletic and able to be nimble and fast,strong but with a smooth bodied appearence. They are not intended to be a big bodied dog nor a heavy slabbed dog. Some of the dogs being bred today and being called Amstaff are getting further and further afar from the actual standard. In fact some people out there are breeding mini hippo's and land whales and calling them Amstaff and APBT.

    I often times shake my head,is it any wonder so many of the general public have no clue as to what a true Amstaff - APBT looks like.....

    Just to quickly add though,in Oz most Amstaff are easily distinguished from a game line bred APBT as the Amstaff is bred to show whilst the other side of the coin are bred for work.
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    Bull Arab Gallery

    Over time, as the interest into this style of dog has grown so to has the breeding of the dogs.
    Not only breeders who try and breed true to type dogs but also those who use it in a cross with other breeds. However, there are some people who are cashing in on the name of the dog and they are being sold as a straight Bull Arab, not a cross, and this is making it hard for people to identify what is a true Bull Arab.
    So that we don't lose sight of these magnificent dogs, in 2007 a group of concerned and dedicated Bull Arab followers banded together to form the Australian Bull Arab Registry Inc, to make sure that the Bull Arab that we know and love today, is still around in generations to come.
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    After re-reading my last post this morning I just wanted to make a note of pointing out that I state 'here in Oz' as here the ACC do not recognise the APBT as a breed.In other parts of the world it can be impossible to distinguish an Amstaff from an APBT as they are still being bred true to standard and not losing the athleticism just for form traits. In fact it is possible to have dual registered Amstaff/APBT.

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    Just a curious question ....



    When looking from the front.....

    Does the AmStaff have shoulders & hips wider apart and wider head than a APBT?
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    It depends on the blood lines and who has bred the dogs.

    Real Amstaffs are only slightly different to true gamebred Pitbulls but you can also get Pitbulls of similar sizing/shape.
    Then you get these things that they call Amstaffs but look like steroid filled dogs. They call them AmBullies in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipps View Post
    Just a curious question ....



    When looking from the front.....

    Does the AmStaff have shoulders & hips wider apart and wider head than a APBT?

    I personally think yes...the Am Staff is an overall "stauncher" appearing dog IMO.

    Just to confuse things even more, there is another dog called the American Bully which would also be mistaken for a pitbull but they don't look how pitbulls should look at all (far too thick set and steroided lookign LOL). Think Cesar Milans dog daddy who though called a pitbull, looked more like an American Bully to me (I am not sayign he was but just using him as an example of looks). Pitbulls are not overly large dogs, they are generally pretty lean.

    Anyway, the Am BUlly is a new breed which crosses, Pittys and Staffs. I am not sure if it is recognised or if there are oter breeds involved in its makeup. I think Am Bully's are what ppl thnk pitbulls are....or dogs that look like Am Bullys, ppl think are pitbulls when in actual fact that is not how a pitty should look

    I am not sure if ths post makes sense, I think I repeated myself about 3 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post

    Bull Arab is not a recognised breed of dog and actually isn't a specific cross breed of dogs it can be any mix of several bull breeds, mastiffs and Great Danes etc, there is no set combination. It really just refers to crossbreed dogs bred by pig hunters.
    Actually, there is a group of people line breeding bull arabs, with the intention of having them recognised, they are breeding them to confirmation and only with proven working dogs, google "australian bull arab breeders association" (I think) they have a good looking, hard, real working dog breed, that is pretty impressive. Already been bred for several generations.

    worth a look.

    I think bull arab used to be just a term for pig dog cross breeds, but there is now an organisation working on the real bull arab as a breed, very nice dogs.

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