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    a cat may kill several native species in a single night, that's why they're not allowed out, I've heard of several children needing stitches after a cat attack. I believe that was a sensible, relevant comparison, you let your cat wander, why can't my dog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbax View Post
    a cat may kill several native species in a single night, that's why they're not allowed out, I've heard of several children needing stitches after a cat attack. I believe that was a sensible, relevant comparison, you let your cat wander, why can't my dog?
    I dont let my cat wander because I dont have any anymore.

    In NZ, most if not all of our native birds are flightless. Many are going extinct.

    They conducted massive studies around native wildlife being killed and domestic cats involvement.

    The fact is, domestic cats do not kill anywhere near the amount of native wildlife people assume they do. They make up a very tiny percentage of killed wildlife.

    The main culprits are wild/feral cats and stoats/weasels/ferrets etc.

    I imagine if that is the case in NZ where the wild life can't escape, then it's going to be fairly similar here.

    So while I commend you for trying its still not a comparable argument in my opinion.

    If cats do kill wildlife, its because they are fast and flexible and hunting comes quite naturally. Domestic dogs are scavengers not hunters so if that is the stance oyu are taking then dogs probably should be able to roam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbax View Post
    a cat may kill several native species in a single night, that's why they're not allowed out, I've heard of several children needing stitches after a cat attack. I believe that was a sensible, relevant comparison, you let your cat wander, why can't my dog?
    Were these children attacked while out in the dead of night?

    Not likely. Likely story is they were "attacked" by the cat in their own, or a friends home after pissing the cat off.

    Still not relevant or comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Were these children attacked while out in the dead of night?

    Not likely. Likely story is they were "attacked" by the cat in their own, or a friends home after pissing the cat off.

    Still not relevant or comparable.
    sorry, but same with dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbax View Post
    sorry, but same with dogs.
    Definitely,

    However you were attempting to argue that why should a cat be able to roam if a dog couldnt.

    Well dogs cant roam because some of them can causes serious injury to a person if they decide to attack.

    Cats cannot (stitches maybe, but full on mauling no)

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    Murphy uses his paws to get the water out. He actually isn't tipping it over.
    But I think this is all apart of his character and I love it in him so much.
    So we just will put down his bowl for now.
    On the cat side we know that she doesn't wonder too far.
    When we had Lacey we would come home and at the gate was Lacey and the cat.
    Sitting along side of one another. It was cute.
    And I am not cat lover but this one has hit a sort of cord as she is a real home body.
    And this is why we can get her in easier than most as she is on the bench seat on the front veranda evey day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Definitely,

    However you were attempting to argue that why should a cat be able to roam if a dog couldnt.

    Well dogs cant roam because some of them can causes serious injury to a person if they decide to attack.

    Cats cannot (stitches maybe, but full on mauling no)
    when I first read this, I was gonna say, no I wasn't trying to argue , I can't type fast enough to argue, but then I read on....

    I agree with you completely.

    I just think that if someone want's to keep an animal, they should be in control of it, which letting it roam the streets is not.

    Yes I don't like cats, but alot of people have mice, rats, spiders, snakes for pets, I wouldn't want any of those either, but it not my business what pets a person may prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    I dont let my cat wander because I dont have any anymore.

    In NZ, most if not all of our native birds are flightless. Many are going extinct.

    They conducted massive studies around native wildlife being killed and domestic cats involvement.

    The fact is, domestic cats do not kill anywhere near the amount of native wildlife people assume they do. They make up a very tiny percentage of killed wildlife.

    The main culprits are wild/feral cats and stoats/weasels/ferrets etc.

    I imagine if that is the case in NZ where the wild life can't escape, then it's going to be fairly similar here.

    So while I commend you for trying its still not a comparable argument in my opinion.

    If cats do kill wildlife, its because they are fast and flexible and hunting comes quite naturally. Domestic dogs are scavengers not hunters so if that is the stance oyu are taking then dogs probably should be able to roam.
    sorry, I didn't see this comment before

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbax View Post
    when I first read this, I was gonna say, no I wasn't trying to argue , I can't type fast enough to argue, but then I read on....

    I agree with you completely.

    I just think that if someone want's to keep an animal, they should be in control of it, which letting it roam the streets is not.

    Yes I don't like cats, but alot of people have mice, rats, spiders, snakes for pets, I wouldn't want any of those either, but it not my business what pets a person may prefer.
    LOLOL Crack me up.

    People should definitely be in control of their animals - I agree with that.

    I am just not sure really where I sit on the cat argument to be honest. Cats in NZ are allowed to roam so it's almost a foreign concept to me to have cats inside at nighttime (though I am sure some ppl do).

    I am just a bit vague on the reasons why cats arent meant to roam at night, yet are free to do so during the day - its weird. Why not have them inside ALL the time if they are such a problem?

    Anyways, on that note, I am off to bed becaue I unfortunately have work tomorrow LOL

    Catch ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    I am just a bit vague on the reasons why cats arent meant to roam at night, yet are free to do so during the day - its weird. Why not have them inside ALL the time if they are such a problem?
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    ha ha ha, exactly. doesn't make sense, anyway, goodnight

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