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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    anne i dont like it because of the reasons that sweetboy has pointed out. they are a part of the family, they are human beings and are entitled to go out for dinner/lunch with their family. yes they should be managed by their parents in such a way that they dont disrupt the comfort and piece of other patrons, but they should have every right to be in a restaurant and cafe. I just find it rude to be quite honest that one would say something like that
    I didn't say they weren't entitled to go out anywhere as a family.

    I personally prefer to have the choice of enjoying my meals and coffee without children or dogs within close proximity.

    I can't see how that is offensive at all.

    I have 8 children (step and my own) in total and 7 step grand-children. They range in age 15months to 41 years. I've been there and done that a dozen times over. I am far from being 'anti-family' or 'anti-child'.
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    well, i just cant see it being practical to "ban" children from cafes or restaurants, nor can i see it being HUMANE or moral! as its been said many places are not places that one would take children anyhow. for instance i went out for my birthday last year and took the kids along with my extended family and their children. while we were there we noticed that no one else had children and we felt uncomfortable in how our kids may be making the other patrons feel whilst having there dinner as it was a "quiet" kind of dining. We loved that restaurant but we wont be going back there if we have our kids with us because it is just not the type of environment for them. so i guess people should just have the respect if its a quiet sort of place, or "couples" sort of environment to not take their kids there to disturb the peace and serenity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    anne i am beginning to think that your purely dont like being near ANY child. whether well behaved or not. not once have you agreed that they should be managed by parents as to not disturb others or be asked to leave. You just keep saying or implying that you dont want them around at all!
    I am going to say this nicely... as nicely as I can. You are overreacting and are becoming irrational. Settle down. READ what I have wirtten.

    I am not for banning children from all restaurants. I am not for banning dogs from all cafes.

    I feel there should be child friendly restaurants and dogs friendly cafes. That way, we ALL get the choice. As it stands, dog owenrs do not get a choice and niether do people who want to have a meal without children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    well, i just cant see it being practical to "ban" children from cafes or restaurants, nor can i see it being HUMANE or moral! as its been said many places are not places that one would take children anyhow. for instance i went out for my birthday last year and took the kids along with my extended family and their children. while we were there we noticed that no one else had children and we felt uncomfortable in how our kids may be making the other patrons feel whilst having there dinner as it was a "quiet" kind of dining. We loved that restaurant but we wont be going back there if we have our kids with us because it is just not the type of environment for them. so i guess people should just have the respect if its a quiet sort of place, or "couples" sort of environment to not take their kids there to disturb the peace and serenity.
    See, now if this restaurant was clearly labelled a restaurant NOT for children, then you would not have gone there and you would not have felt uncomfortable. You would have chosen a restaurant where you KNEW children were welcome and where the facilites supported children more.

    The only time you would find me at such a restaurant, is when I was with my grandchildren, or with a friend who has children, otherwsie you would not find me within a mile of such a place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    well angelanbatty yes you are allowed to have your opinion on children in restaurants, that is true, why should i not be allowed to have my opinion on your opinion? bit of a case of double standards there. Like i said children need to be managed by their parents in such a way that they dont disrupt the peace of the other patrons. if this is not honoured, the restaurant cafe owners by all means should ask them to leave. but to ban them??? i think this is disgraceful.
    I'm not saying to ban them outright. I'm saying that those of us who CHOOSE not to have children should be able to socialise without dealing with other peoples children. Even Kid free areas of the restaurant would be nice. Yes there are people who manage their kids beautifully & I take my hat off to them. But I loathe the screams. Even the laughing screams drill into my head and it winds up being a horrible experience for me & I usually leave without finishing my meal. How is that fair?

    Most cafe/restaurant owners will not ask people with disruptive children to leave because they are worried about the parents causing a worse scene.

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    no i am not being irrational anne. i am simply stating what i think is the case in your posts. but now you have made yourself clear on your point, we all pretty muc have the same one so i dont understand why wires are getting crossed. there ARE non child friendly places to eat as i have stated in my last post, the children however are NOT banned but its just not practical to have children in these sort of places if the parents have any respect for other patrons.

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    I TOTALLY agree with the child free areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jucealala View Post

    Margoo, in Victoria you're allowed to take animals on the train and bus now, they're just meant to be in a carrier. Not sure what the rule is if you own a dog that weighs anything more that 15kg though and can't be carried.
    So I think I won't be carrying my 70 kg dogs
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    Exactly. I mean you can 'allow' things and make them so difficult that nobody will ever do it Here in SA it's apparently up to the bus driver whether he'll let you take your dog. Just imagine you may be able to get 'there' but not 'back' anymore...

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    It's hypocrisy at it's best.

    This is from the metro website:

    'dogs are not permitted to travel on buses. An exception exists for guide dogs, hearing guide dogs or guide dogs in training and small animals if they are suitable contained.'

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