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    Ok, you got me curious, I dug out my poodle files...

    This is my boys fathers hip scores:

    LEFT
    Distraction Index (DI) - 0.33
    Degenerative Joint Disease (DJD) - None
    Cavitation - No
    Other findings - N/A

    RIGHT
    Distraction Index (DI) - 0.40
    Degenerative Joint Disease (DJD) - None
    Cavitation - No
    Other findings - N/A

    DI is greater than 0.30 with no radiographic evidence of DJD. There is an increased risk of developing DJD as the DI increases; low risk when DI is close to 0.30, high risk is close to 0.70 or above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    No offense to newfsie, but I know about hip scores and that confused me

    In short... yes those scores are good.
    I'm guessing the 4.3. on the mum is the hips, which is good... not excellent, but certainly not anything to worry about.
    No offense taken............I had them in a neat table, but it won't go in like that. It just scores each part of the hip, each part has it's own score.......it is how they are done for giants as far as I know. The table in the wiki link is the same as on our pieces of paper,
    Overall score is 1 for hips and 0 for elbows


    Must be a different system...........As always that is the problem, everyone has different systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K2BC View Post
    Thanks Labsrule. We are actually getting a Choc lab so your info has been very helpful and we are getting a copy of all the scores and papers etc
    Ok then, now I know it is a Labrador I can now comment on the mum's hips and it is a pretty good score, well below the breed average, so with the hip and elbow scores for your pups parents, you have nothing to worry about. Also just to let you know that quite frankly, it is "unusual" for a Lab to have 0/0 hips, so the dad must be in great shape and both the dad and mum's scores bode well for your pup

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    Was also meant to say, excellent choice of Breed, of course I am totally biaised. When are you getting your pup and have you decided on gender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    No offense taken............I had them in a neat table, but it won't go in like that. It just scores each part of the hip, each part has it's own score.......it is how they are done for giants as far as I know. The table in the wiki link is the same as on our pieces of paper,
    Overall score is 1 for hips and 0 for elbows


    Must be a different system...........As always that is the problem, everyone has different systems.
    I'd say the littlies must be very different to the giant breeds in terms of scoring.
    I have never bred myself so I just know how to read the numbers, the rest is gibberish to me.
    I had never actually taken a good look at my boys parents scores before now. I have had him for 2 years and this is the first time I have opened his puppy pack other than to look at the photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Labsrule View Post
    Was also meant to say, excellent choice of Breed, of course I am totally biaised. When are you getting your pup and have you decided on gender?
    We get our pup on the 9th of July and it's a little girl!!
    Thanks so much for you're help

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    Have you actually seen a copy of these great scores yet? only ask because I have seen great scores posted for Neapolitan Mastiffs on a few sites that are just too good to be true for this breed, but never seen a copy of the actual report posted.
    In this breed dogs scores can be as high as 40 for hips and absolutely no problems ever encountered by the dog. Indeed my best Bandog has a score of 40 and still even with a severe injury to his lower back and nerve damage to his right hind leg from an accident can still fly over a 6 foot fence.

    I like to look at x-rays and see that there is no actual deformity, or ball not sitting in it's slot, loose in a big breed does NOT cripple the dog.

    Over weight dogs will be crippled even with much lower scores than light weight dogs.

    And yes, elbows are more important than hips when it comes to deformity or really bad scores.

    Your breeder would seem to have the best Labs going from the scores you post.

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    Or just really good selective breeding.

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    I won't see them for another week yet. I'm just going off what information I already have

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2BC View Post
    I won't see them for another week yet. I'm just going off what information I already have
    Thats ok as when you go to see them, I would ask for a copy of each parent's Hip/Elbow Score Certificates & Pra Certificates and a registered, reputable, ethical breeder should be willing to provide these. If you were getting your pup out of state and weren't actually able to visit the breeder beforehand, then I would ask them to email/post you copies of these before you purchase the pup. The Hip/Elbow Scoring reports should also have the pup's parent's registered/pedigree names on them along with the parents Dam (mum) and Sire (dad) registered/pedigree names on them as well (i.e. your pup's grandparents pedigree details). These details should match up with what is on your pup's Registration Papers, I presume your pup will be on a "Limited Register".

    Also just to clarify when I said in my previous post that it was "unusual" for a Lab to have hip scores of 0, I meant it was a rarity as opposed to it being impossible.

    Anyway looking forward to seeing some pics of your adorable new addition when you get her.

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