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    Default Liar or Possibly Telling the Truth??

    Hi guys, just after some general opinions,

    I know of this person selling some pups, not ones that i am interested in just saying that i know of this situation..

    He (i wont say the breed incase they are on here... awkward!!) breed quite often, a bit too often :/ and have some pups available at the moment whom dont have papers because while the mother is papered the father has "lost" his papers.. but is from papered lines.

    I dont know alot about papers but is this even possible? should they not be able to get new paper work sent out if they have "lost" them or is he telling the truth???

    just curious.
    perhaps the father is only on limited register??

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    dunno, but just a hint, if they say they don't have papers because one parent lost them(how???), you probably wont ask to see the other parents papers, so it seems like an excuse not to give papers with a pup.

    I don't know, just think about it

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    like i said i am not interested in the pups, just know the people, know OF them i should say.. just curious as to if this is really possible

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    As a responsible breeder you just dont lose your dogs papers, that is ridiculous. If a dog is registered through the ANKC or any of the working registries, if you lose the papers you just apply for a replacement set. You are always a member yourself and pay a membership fee. The person may have a dog that was entitled to have registration papers but the breeder or owner never registered them and you can only do so for a limited time.

    I myself have a dog that is from registered parents, Australian champions both of them but because she was going to be a pet the breeder never registered her and I never bothered to ask her to, so when I came to register her years later with the ANKC for agility she is on the associate (mutt) register LOL.

    So the dog could very well be a purebred that was never registered. Not exactly what you want to hear from a breeder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    As a responsible breeder you just dont lose your dogs papers, that is ridiculous. If a dog is registered through the ANKC or any of the working registries, if you lose the papers you just apply for a replacement set. You are always a member yourself and pay a membership fee. The person may have a dog that was entitled to have registration papers but the breeder or owner never registered them and you can only do so for a limited time.

    I myself have a dog that is from registered parents, Australian champions both of them but because she was going to be a pet the breeder never registered her and I never bothered to ask her to.
    This is what I thought, thanks for the reply. Like i said just curious i thought the situation was a bit "off"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    just curious as to if this is really possible
    doubt it, sorry

    sounds like a trading post advertisement

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    dan4nas

    It reads like some creative fiction (aka lies). It goes against the ANKC guidelines in many ways.

    You might want to read some of the stuff the ANKC has under their "about" menu list.

    And read the stuff about "the register" on this page.
    Australian National Kennel Council

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    thanks hya, will have a look. silly buggers they are, well silly the people that are buying them for $900!

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    If both parents are papered, the pups should be too... you don't actually have to show the papers to get them registered, just fill out the relevant paperwork... and yes if the papers are missing its a small cost to get them reissued...

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    I'm late but yes, registered breeders are not permitted to breed unpapered dogs, mixed breed dogs or dogs on limited registration.
    If he 'lost' the papers then that's as good as breeding an unpapered dog.
    Every dog I have bought has come with photocopies of the sire and dams pedigrees.

    People will buy them, no doubt about that, people are silly enough to pay $1200 for completely unpapered pet store dogs.

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