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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I reckon...

    The ones that do the most damage seem to be the ones trained to do damage - by deliberate effort on the owner's part or owner neglect to correct dangerous behaviour.

    But I also think a big ACD can do a lot of damage and is quite skilled at avoiding counter attacks. Given they can nip a cow, horse, human on the heel and dodge the retalliation, makes them pretty formidable. And given how many toys mine has completely destroyed, she's powerful. Not quite as powerful in the jaw as a bull terrier but not far off.

    I believe there are dobes out there that are also quite destructive in terms of jaw power. Ie rip car tyres to pieces. I wouldn't want to make one of them angry either.
    I previously worked with a guy that did alot of security work with the AFP. He said they were given a paintball gun and asked to shoot at a doberman that would be released to run at them from about 40m away. He said that 95% of the people could not get a single shot on the dobe before it was too late. And these were specially trained men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llmoose View Post
    I previously worked with a guy that did alot of security work with the AFP. He said they were given a paintball gun and asked to shoot at a doberman that would be released to run at them from about 40m away. He said that 95% of the people could not get a single shot on the dobe before it was too late. And these were specially trained men.
    that is so cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by llmoose View Post
    I previously worked with a guy that did alot of security work with the AFP. He said they were given a paintball gun and asked to shoot at a doberman that would be released to run at them from about 40m away. He said that 95% of the people could not get a single shot on the dobe before it was too late. And these were specially trained men.
    Clearly not conformation lines then. A well bred working Dobe will do this, but they are few and far between here in Oz. I'm lucky enough to have seen and worked a couple, and OMG, I will NEVER consider show genetics again.

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    YouTube - ‪Guard Dog Training Centre Sydney Australia‬‏

    check out the dog at about 40sec into this video, very scary

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    Lol puggerup, nah you don't want to see that happen, It might be funny to watch me shoot out a rainbow but someone has to clean up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    I would like a working bred GSD after all they are fairly commonly used by police. A nice stable GSD would be the one for me.
    Agreed, give me a German or Swiss shepherd any day!

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    If the question is what type of dog would give you the best protection, I'd say GSDs and Dobermans are easily #1 and #2 of the well known breeds. Lots of the Asian LGDs and African dogs like Boerboels and Ridgebacks are excellent guardians as well. But if you want to know which dog can cause the most damage, look to the bull breeds first. Breeds like Sharpeis that were bred for fighting can also be dangerous, but the physical capabilities of bull breeds and their relentlessness put them a step ahead. I've seen a purebred female staffy with a lovely nature be attacked by a male Great Dane and wipe the floor with him. I've seen an aggressive (and massive) GSD get in a fight with a bull terrier cross and be completely overwhelmed. They're beautiful animals, but bull and mastiff breeds tend to be more mentally and physically capable of doing a lot of damage. APBTs are definitely the "worst" for their size though. Extreme athletic ability and durability and don't know the meaning of give up. Doesn't mean they can't be fantastic dogs though.

    But the actual most dangerous dog is one that isn't socialised or trained. My mum's partner has a kelpie who has never been socialised and while it's OK with people, it will attack any other dog on sight. A complete nightmare.

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    Well it is not part of the breed type, but when a newfie goes ballistic things are not good.

    They have been known historically to take on bears, even a recent one in Canada.

    They are rarely the starter of a fight, but can be quite frightening when provoked.

    I have been in the middle of a newfie fights several times, when I first got my Rescue Newfie Annabelle, she was a dog and people aggressive dog due to mismanagement and mistreatment. Not sure what her exact history was. We got her at 14 month. First three weeks were good, typical with a rescue. Though she showed dislike for men and kids with hoodies.
    Third week she tried to kill my other bitch. Who did not help matters by also going in fight mode...That was some fight and we nearly lost our GrxBC, she had huge neck and leg injuries. Annabelle was impossible to pull off. No lifting turning back legs, finger up her rectum etc worked. we actually had to use a wedge to open her jaw, door wedge, lucky we had one. And we broke a tooth in the process.
    BUT.......She has been re-trained and now, three years later will only get touchy when dogs attack her. But we can also now pull her off. She has been desensitised and Counter conditioned. the "leave it" command, puts her in an instant down, even when she is rattled. And I suppose some breeds cannot be re-trained like her.

    It is hard to say....I think any large dog can cause great harm when mismanaged by people or left to their own survival. It does not always require people to be involved. Wild dogs are not great to meet at all, no people involved there.

    I think some dogs have a harder bite and are more difficult to separate. Such as all the bull breeds and mastiffs. And I mean all the ones who only have a small amount in their breeding somewhere. Mastiff like dogs also includes newfie's, Bernese Mountain dogs, Rottie, Pyrenean, St B's and a lot of the large stock guarding dogs

    Breeding for character is very important, most breeds who are well bred in this country hopefully have breeders that take account of character. I Know that the Breeder of Annabelle made sure she was spayed, even though her littermates had no issues and she was really due to her pervious life. But we now have a newfie Rescue who was also mistreated and he has not come out as an aggressive dog. So it was relevant. In her eyes newfies are not supposed to be aggressive, unless protecting their owners
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    jonbax

    that place trains using methods i'd consider abuse. Not something I'd want to encourage by linking up their videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llmoose View Post
    Just wondering which breeds are the most physically capable of causing harm?
    Any large enough dog is capable of doing a serious damage and even death. In fact, it does not even have to be that large (pit bulls are not all that big) - if it wants to hurt you it will. Considering the strength of rotties bite (which is the strongest of all breeds according to research) I'd put them somewhere on the top of the list.

    But if I have to say what is the most dangerous breed I'd say untrained, unsocialised and traumatised dog regardless of breed.
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