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    What if pet shops were to sell animals on a commission only and only from registered breeders, would be a lot more paperwork, but I think it would be ethical and they would still be able to sell animals, also any earnings lost due to not getting the whole price for an animal might be recovered in not having to house and feed animals.
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    I think you've taken comments the wrong way.

    I haven't noticed anything like that here either.

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    ok so since the two of you havnt noticed it it doesnt exist. OK NO WORRIES. ILL LEAVE IT THERE.

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    One comment though, just because someone is totally smitten with the dog does not make them an animal lover. I cant say everyone who likes dogs likes for eg, snakes, birds, rabbits etc.

    Some one who like snakes more than likely does not like mice or rabbits or chickens say.

    Some one who likes to hunt with dogs may not neccessarily and more than likely does not like pigs, or birds!! ( otherwise how can they condone "hunting" as a sport???)

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    I can see this is going to get out of control. So despite the fact that i will DEFINATELY get strong worded replies to my last few posts I wont be replying as to end what could become a heated discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    One comment though, just because someone is totally smitten with the dog does not make them an animal lover. I cant say everyone who likes dogs likes for eg, snakes, birds, rabbits etc.

    Some one who like snakes more than likely does not like mice or rabbits or chickens say.

    Some one who likes to hunt with dogs may not neccessarily and more than likely does not like pigs, or birds!! ( otherwise how can they condone "hunting" as a sport???)
    that's pretty true, I love dogs, but I am far from an animal lover

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    One comment though, just because someone is totally smitten with the dog does not make them an animal lover. I cant say everyone who likes dogs likes for eg, snakes, birds, rabbits etc.

    Some one who like snakes more than likely does not like mice or rabbits or chickens say.

    Some one who likes to hunt with dogs may not neccessarily and more than likely does not like pigs, or birds!! ( otherwise how can they condone "hunting" as a sport???)
    Wild pigs are pests. The majority of hunters kill them humanely and hunt out of necessity not pleasure.

    Why wouldn't someone who likes snakes not like mice or rabbits? Of course they like them, if it wasn't for the mice or rabbits they wouldn't have their pets able to survive.

    I like birds and I consider myself an animal lover, but my dog has now killed a couple of birds. Does that mean I no longer like birds because I can understand that my dog was behaving through prey drive? Or that I don't like mice because my cat catches them and kills them?

    Sorry, I'm just not seeing the logic in what you've said, perhaps you could explain it a bit more?

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    Hmmm okay I didnt really mean that people dont like other animals. I have lots of animals, and I must admit I love them on different levels. I have two rats that I've had for over two years then my puppy who I've only had for 3 months but I love her more. Why? Because she is with me all the time, she will be with me longer then them (rats live an average of 2 years) and she has a larger brain capacity therefore shows more personality. This may sound horrible but it doesnt make me treat them any differently.
    This doesnt mean I dont love them it just means I've put them into perspective.

    I semi disagree with the 'hunting' thing to, I like pigs but I also acknowledge the need to cull them. Same with goats, camels etc, really anything feral as long as its dont in an ethical way. Pigs need to be shot as baiting would kill the native wildlife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbax View Post
    What if pet shops were to sell animals on a commission only and only from registered breeders, would be a lot more paperwork, but I think it would be ethical and they would still be able to sell animals, also any earnings lost due to not getting the whole price for an animal might be recovered in not having to house and feed animals.
    It would only address the 'puppy farm' argument and not the rest, such as;
    - impulse buying
    - socialisation
    - mismatched homes

    I don't neccessarily agree that these are issues however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4nas View Post
    ok so since the two of you havnt noticed it it doesnt exist. OK NO WORRIES. ILL LEAVE IT THERE.
    I'm not quite sure I am reading the tone correctly here...but your response I feel is a little antagonistic.

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    I merely stated that I hadn't noticed anyone of that nature here. I have read coments from people who may not favour cats, or spiders or snakes or whatever, but I can't think of any who would wish them harm though.

    I don't like snakes or spiders as pets, but I am an animal lover and I care what happens to all animals.
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