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    I'm not a fan of crates unless the dog is sleeping.... or has an injury ... or is being transported.
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    Um crate training is good for lots of things.

    I have used my crate for my dog when I'm at dog club setting stuff up. I could tie her up but then she's vulnerable to anyone who wants to walk up and have a pat and any stray dog that wanders in (its a public space). My soft sided crate also keeps the bugs off.

    I've also used it when I had lunch with some rellos at a country pub and we ate inside and dog had to wait outside, and I couldn't get a park in the shade - so I set the crate up in the shade - where I could see it from the window of our table. Caused a great deal of amusement from the locals but protected her from them and from a small child that wanted to say hello. After lunch, small child re-appeared and I let him say hello. Was funny, mother was not paying attention at all. But it was a country town, what could go wrong, right?

    I also used the crate when my dog was a puppy and I had to go out. To give her small kennel like space to be safe inside the house, and to save the house from puppy accidents and destruction. Once the puppy has some bladder capacity eg 3 to 4 months - they don't like to soil their sleeping area.

    And it's very handy to have a dog happy in crate if you go to a dog show or competition or just around to a friends place and you want to keep your dog out of trouble (ie no digging in their garden etc).

    And it's handy for keeping angry dogs apart.

    I would link the k9pro website article but it's broken for some reason.

    This one from the USA equivalent to the RSPCA explains it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    I'm not a fan of crates unless the dog is sleeping.... or has an injury ... or is being transported.
    I Used one for my Ruby when she was a Puppy for Over night but not a big fan of having a fully grown dog in one all day.. I think Ruby would go stir crazy and chew the thing apart haha

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    Getting a Behaviourist/trainer involved is just about the best thing to do. But if you cannot afford de-sexing, this might also be unaffordable.
    What I found with my very dog aggressive newfie, when we first got her. Was to train her side by side with our other dog. And lots of it about four times a day......We made it fun and training became fun. My newfie started to associate fun with the dog she previousy attacked.
    Also de-sexing does not solve the problem. It will help, but training still has to be done.
    I was lucky i had the help of a great trainer. Annbelle is 99% right. But very occasionally she can still go into " the stance"....If I am early enough , I can stop things by using calming signals and running of calling happy"lets go play" or something. But we did have a fight a few weeks ago, mind you nothing like they used to be. You will always have to watch them.
    Mine live together, my trainer initially told me to keep them seperate, but involved together (training). We never used crates, but the umbilical system. Hubby with one dog, me with Annabelle. Now they are just in the house, free. Katy our younger newfie, is a Peace-keeper and she will see tension and start play. She has taught me a great deal about dog interaction. If you see something start to happen, don't yell. Use calming signs and start to instigate play, by being happy silly. Our new Rescue is the same, he redirects to play also.......
    My dogs only had their original fights when we were around, never when no-one was home. I think that does make a difference in the training method. So this let me to thinking, We somehow caused the tension........

    As I said, if you can possibly manage, get someone to help you.........Good luck
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    I agree thaqt crates have their uses Hya, but sadly, all I see is the increasing trend to overuse them. In the US it is quite common, on Pug forums at least, for people to crate their dogs all day and everytime they leave the house.

    Sorry, but if you want a caged animal, buy something that is more appropriate for cage life.(If there is such a thing really)
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    Hi Anne

    I'm pretty comfortable with the idea of crating the dog when I'm not home. Or the time I'd be at work, if I worked a 9-5 kind of job. I don't mostly. But it makes no difference to my dog - she just sleeps on the couch the entire time. Unless the dog has a big space, that's what they do when the boss is out - especially if they're getting plenty of exercise and mental stimulation at other times. But the exercise and mental stimulation is key - crate or no crate.

    So if one of these dogs is desexed - it will need crating. If these two dogs are fighting, they will need to be physically separated. And possibly the kindest way to do this is to crate both of them. Especially if money is limited. But there would be other ways. Like locking one in the back yard and one in the house.

    And they would both need plenty of exercise and mental stimulation and no opportunity to practice fighting. Fighting should be prevented not stopped.

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    *looks shocked* Really? You would crate a dog for 8 hours straight every day?!!

    Sorry, but I find that whole concept disturbing.
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    OK two things here.

    1. Due to escaping one of my dogs is confined for a minimum of 8 hours a day while no one is home. And thats not going to change yet as I am hearing about a job tomorrow (hopefully) and don't want to spend money then move an dhave a useless set up. However, she isnt confined to a crate but to a room in the house (either the front entranceway or her bedroom at the back of the house)

    2. I cant wrap my head head round the Sharpei/BT being smaller than the whippet/BT LOL

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    I would consider being confined to a room very different to a crate. Although they are both still confinements, one would allow the dog to throw a toy in the air and catch it or even to walk more than a metre from its bed to toilet if it had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    I would consider being confined to a room very different to a crate. Although they are both still confinements, one would allow the dog to throw a toy in the air and catch it or even to walk more than a metre from its bed to toilet if it had to.
    Well yes this is true though one of the rooms is tiny (might fit a couch if ya lucky but there would be nowhere for ya legs) However as hya says, they just sleep all day.

    She has a bunch of toys in there with her, including a treat stuffed kong and apart from getting everything out of the kong, the toys dont move...until mummy gets home LOL

    Barney's toys in the back yard dont move either until its time to come inside then he brings them in lol

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