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    Bit of a long story but a friend of mine recently got a puppy – some toy dog x. She lives with her father and he owns a cattle dog. The cattle dog never gets walked, has never been to the vet in its life and is stuck in the yard. So when she brought this puppy along of course the cattle dog was excited and loves playing.

    Now she thinks because the cattle dog has enjoyed having a puppy around so much that the cattle dog should have a litter of her own. The cattle dog is about 6 years old. I asked her why she would want to do that given the dogs age and she said it would be fine, she could take her to the vet weekly and get a C section when it was time for the birth (given she said she couldn’t cope with a normal birth). Never mind that the dog hasn’t been to the vet and she hasn’t got the money to do all of this.

    A friend of theirs has a dog which they could breed with. This male is due to be desexed but the owner agreed to let him breed once before then. He is 6 months old.

    How can I convince her not to do it? I am going to direct her to the Australia Working Dog rescue site and show her all the dogs without homes. Other reasons for this being a bad idea include: their tiny backyard and lack of exercise. I am pretty disgusted at her stupid reasons for wanting puppies.

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    At 6 years of age, she is bordering on being too old to be bred from. Although it isn't exactly correct, but it is close enough for this purpose, tell her that there are roughly 7 dog years to every human year. She is expecting a dog that is between the ages of 42 and 49 to have her first litter. The risk to the bitch's health is quite high. The bitch could easily die, or the pups could easily die.

    To be honest, it sounds like she may be all talk anyway. Does she even know when she should mate them? Lets hope that she doesn't and the bitch becomes aggressive with the young male. That should make them pull their head in I would think. Afterall, no-one wants to see a dog being attacked and if she has never been mated before, she might be even more adverse to having some young dog try to mount her.
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    You have a point. I hope she doesn’t know when the breed them. I also hope she is being all talk.

    She seems convinced it is better for her to breed because she isn’t desexed. Something about it will flush out her system and she won’t end up with cancer or something silly.
    I just think it is such a bad idea.

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    Michelle,

    What about the cost involved in raising pups until they are at least 8 weeks old.
    The cost of Microchipping (because it is illegal not to), worming, vaccinations etc.
    The cost of operations if there is complications during the pregnancy.
    Ask her what about if she cannot find homes for all the pups.

    So many reasons not to byb.

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    I've tried talking about money but she didn't seem to care (never mind she stupid amounts of credit card debt!).

    Anyone have some worse case scenarios for slightly older dogs? I am going to try some scare tactics!

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    I think that is your best bet. Unless her heart is made of stone, she'll have some love for the CD. If she thinks it will kill her or hurt her or even make her sick, she may reconsider.

    Guilt trips always work well too.

    Show her some sad videos of dogs being euthanased in a pound and ask why she would want to add to that misery.
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    Make her read the opening post of this link

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...you-breed.html

    PS couldn't she just adopt a companion for the cattle dog - though I just think that would be two miserable dogs instead of one.

    http://www.australiancattledogrescue.com/

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    So far my list of why not is as follows:
    • Normal expensive vet costs
    • Possible additional vet costs
    • Cost of high quality food
    • Micro-chip costs
    • In ability to rehome
    • Possible death of puppies or bitch during birth
    • The number of dogs without homes that you might add to
    • You will never get an exact copy of the mother no matter how much you try
    • Horrible guilt trip about the pound

    I just worry because she is stubborn.

    I don't know why having the two dogs there isn't enough.

    She has made me really grumpy being so silly about this whole situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Make her read the opening post of this link

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...you-breed.html

    PS couldn't she just adopt a companion for the cattle dog - though I just think that would be two miserable dogs instead of one.

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    Ahuh the first link is the one I wanted for the other poster but couldn't find it. Thanks Hya

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