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    I looked at my calendar and realised it is only 40 days until I leave for my big trip to China. When I come back I am looking at getting a second dog - While I can say it is to keep Johnny company ect ect – It really is for me because I just love dogs and a second one would be fun.

    I have a couple of breeds in mind but I can’t choose! Can anyone help?
    I am still in the research stage. I know I should go visit breeders but I want to start thinking about which!

    The breeds I have been reading up on are:

    Pappillons
    Miniature Pinchers
    Sweedish Vallhunds

    Has anyone been involved or met any of these breeds?

    I’ve met a Pappillon through agility but the other two are new to me. The other two breeds get bonus points for looking “boy friendly” – my OH might not deal with another girly looking dog haha.

    If you haven’t met any of these breeds how did you decide which dog was right for you?

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    I'm going to get a Papillon for my net dog. As far as I'm concerned you can't get a nicer small dog. Min pins were also on my list but they got knocked off on account of their energy levels.

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    Ooooh, I loved China! I went last year.

    Papillons are cute, but I suspect they might be a bit yappy? I could be wrong though.
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    I have met a lot of yappy Papillons - but then again most people have yappy Chis and Johnny never barks (I am pretty strict with him on this - it is something my OH can't stand). It is so hard to choose as they all have good qualities I like!

    Where did you go in China Anne? I am staying a week in Beijing then going to Xi'An to work with Pandas on a reserve. Should be fun ^_^

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    There is a papillon that walks at my "morning" oval. It is full on, very fast, completely fearless (gets itself into trouble now and again), and really smart. Much smarter than its owners. Ie who is training who I wonder? And it lives with a beagle.

    I could imagine a GD getting itself in a complete twist trying to keep up. I saw the two GDs that Frosty had a run with recently and thought about sending her to go play but she turns such tight circles - I'd be worried about the GDs hurting themselves trying to keep up.

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    Ni3hao3 (or nee haoww) as we pronounce it.

    I went to Shanghai, Yangzhou, Zhengzhou, Dengfeng and Nanjing. I was there for work so that was my priority but I also was lucky enough to be able to do some sightseeing.
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    I’d be happy to take on a smart dog. I’d probably want her to be my agility dog and Johnny to continue with flyball. That way they would both get some one on one time.

    Which breed would least upset Johnny?

    Anne: I have been taking Mandarin lessons as I am going on this trip alone. I figure it is worth my while knowing how to ask where the train and the toilet is!

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    remind us again, what is Johnny like?

    Whatever dog you do decide to get, take Johnny with you. He might prefer to be an only dog. But you definitely don't want to bring home a companion for him to find he can't stand it.

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    Johnny is a long haired Chihuahua. Johnny is 1 ½ now.

    He gets the majority of his dog interaction from flyball and agility. I think he is pretty smart (we learnt roll over and high 5/10 the other night). He gets a long pretty well with other dogs – specifically the flyball dogs and my parents dog Peggy. I made sure he was well socialised early on to avoid problems. He is walked at least once a day, twice when I have the dog walker come in. He plays well with one of my cats.

    How do I judge if he would be okay with a sister?

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    First, if he gets along well with females, I would get a female dog. Dog/bitch combinations are less likely to fight.

    I have two Min Pins, both are desexed bitches (one of them figuratively ). One of them is tall and lanky and the other is shorter and a bit dumpy, but they don't look like handbag dogs. Both are muscular and look fit/lean.

    We've owned them for 8 and 5 years so I have a lot of experience with the breed. It was our second breed (after a Bichon Frise) and they took to our lifestyle like ducks to water. They are a fairly independently minded breed, and while they are intelligent and easily trainable, they require a firm hand. They have to respect you as a handler or you will get nothing out of them (except for the basics maybe, like sit/stay). One of my girls knows advanced tricks but only after years of searching for a method that would work-- clicker training and positive reinforcement. They have a stubborn streak that will run a mile if you let it. I think this is par for the course with any breed, though. They love doing tricks and are so entertaining you probably won't need a tv!

    Again, this should be done with all breeds, but socialization is a *must* with MPs. Neither of ours were correctly socialized and I am paying for it now because I have had to train dog aggression out of Mischa, and fear aggression (people and dogs) out of Cleo. They are good now, but in the puppy stages they were difficult to control and rowdy (especially if walked together!).

    Male dogs tend to be sookier but MPs are definitely a lap dog. They like to burrow under clothes, blankets, and you can bet they will own your bed! If you have a heater, they'll be found nowhere but in front of it during winter. Mine like cuddles (mostly on their own terms...sort of like cats) and get along well with the other dogs. Mischa shares her bed/food with my older male terrier--they bonded pretty much from the first day he arrived.

    MPs make good sporting dogs, too (if you can get them to listen). Mischa excels at agility and flyball and they are so quick! Of course, recall is important--I have done so much recall work with both of them, but I don't trust Cleo in open areas. Mischa returns to me out of loyalty, but if Cleo is afraid or sees something she wants to chase, she's out of there. I have to disagree with Brittany: they are not a high energy breed. They adapt easily to short walks if that is all you can give. Steam can be blown off in other ways like training, games, inside fetch, etc. I personally walk mine twice a day for an hour each time, and they just love it. They have boundless energy but it doesn't rule them. Of course, like any bored and unexercised dog they will bark or be destructive if there is no outlet for their energy. But they are not over the top, just bouncy and prancy (one of the cuter points of the breed). They are a bit delicate and don't appreciate dogs who rough and tumble--they are far too dainty and precious for that! My two play, but gently and there isn't any noise like the two boys, who sound like they have started WWIII with their growling and zoomies.

    Overall, they are a delight to own, and ideal for a first or second time owner as long as research is done and breeders looked into thoroughly. They are a really healthy breed; we've had no health problems with either. Do make sure you look into a breeder that health tests for things like luxating patellas and eye problems, though, they can be prone to that in later years.


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