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    Keira - do you know what the requirements or criteria are to be given registration?

    ....just a paper test
    But what about people for whom English is there second language? Or those who have a reading disability or even an intellectual disability.

    I can see that any kind of testing could never be used to 'license' people to own pets. More likely, it would be criteria or requirements to be met. But again, as Crested I think pointed out, the criteria would have to be so braod that it would not be effective.

    Like Crested, I don't take my Pugs to training and never have. I don't walk them often either, only on weekends when I have the chance. My yard is absolutley miniscule in my new house and I have just made it smaller by adding to the deck. The yard is now only about 6m x 5m.
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    I'd like to see no sales from pet shops of live animals... and I also believe if you bring it into the world you are responsible... all microchips to contain the breeders details as well as the current owners... would make breeders more responsible as to who they sell the animals on too... if one turns up down the track make the breeder at least financially responsible...

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    But what about people for whom English is there second language? Or those who have a reading disability or even an intellectual disability.
    We have found ways of sorting that for other kinds of tests and passport application forms. Ie translations, translators, and readers...

    Intellectual disability not so sure about - depends what age they evaluate at - ie it's not ok for someone under 18 yo to be the registered owner. So depending on the competency of an intellecually disabled person (or person with mental health issues) it would be good to know they have a basic understanding of what is involved in dog care. Ie food and vet care as required etc. If they can't understand those concepts, its probably in the best interests of the dog if someone else took responsibility and held the licence, eg the (intellectually) disabled person's carer.

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    Ooops, just noticed my spelling error that was highlighted in your reesponse Hya. It should say 'their' not there! Doh!
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    What to the Northern Europeans do? They ban desexing dogs unless for medical reasons and yet they dont seem to have a dog problem at all. I wonder how their system operates?

    I know people with 5 dogs in suburbia where the limit is 2 but because their dogs are well trained they have flown under the radar for years with none of them licensed.

    When I applied for a license to keep a third dog in suburbia, the ranger came round to inspect my backyard, that it was secure and that there was adequate shelter and water etc. I thought it was interesting that they make all that effort when adding a third dog but no one really cares when you have 2.

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    In part of Europe you have to have a license to sell puppies. And in some places the breeder is responsible for the dogs in the first (I think) eighteen months.

    If Breeders were to have a tighter control, such as to have to have their Breeding dogs medically checked and such, BYB's and Puppy Farms would not be so rampant. At present Breeders do not have to health Check their Breeding dogs or pups for health . Only some ethical Breeders do. And many, once you have taken the pup, have no further input or responsibility.

    I also think there should be a limit to the amount of dogs Breeders are allowed to keep in comparison to the space they have for them and the standard of the environment for them. But who would police all of this? We already have so many laws to cover this, but nothing is done or followed through. Sadly it is many dogs who suffer.

    Even many so-called good Breeders have to many dogs and keep them in less then suitable environments for the dogs. Dogs are kenneled forever and really do not get much personal time. I have been to many Breeders and have seen clean places, but still miserable kenneled dogs.
    I just wish there was a better way.
    I have also been to one, which some of you might call a BYB and the Breeding dogs, both lived there, were registered, not health checked. But the pups and their mother lived in the most glorious environment and the puppies had a lot of time and socialisation time spent on them. And the dog was just in amongst it all.

    I also agree all dogs from point of sale should be microchipped. And the Breeder should remain as an address point of contact on this microchip forever. Lukey our last Newfie Rescue is the perfect example of how this is positive. As the Kempsey Pound contacted his Breeder to say he had landed there. And the Breeder convinced the person who was going to leave him there to bring him down to her (paid for the trip). That is a responsible Breeder. So Lukey ended up in Breed Rescue, which the Breeder is anyway, instead of a Pound. A much better outcome.

    As to testing future dog owners........Would be great, but people can have children and not sit an exam, sadly some kids suffer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    What to the Northern Europeans do? They ban desexing dogs unless for medical reasons and yet they dont seem to have a dog problem at all. I wonder how their system operates?
    I know people with 5 dogs in suburbia where the limit is 2 but because their dogs are well trained they have flown under the radar for years with none of them licensed.

    When I applied for a license to keep a third dog in suburbia, the ranger came round to inspect my backyard, that it was secure and that there was adequate shelter and water etc. I thought it was interesting that they make all that effort when adding a third dog but no one really cares when you have 2.
    Wow (bolded bit), that is interesting! Do you knwo where I can find out info on this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Wow (bolded bit), that is interesting! Do you knwo where I can find out info on this??
    We had a Finnish Judge here last year at our Specialty and she did discuss this. Not sure weather she was talking Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland or only one of them. I was only half listening. She also told me about the strict breeding laws
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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    We had a Finnish Judge here last year at our Specialty and she did discuss this. Not sure weather she was talking Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland or only one of them. I was only half listening. She also told me about the strict breeding laws
    Thanks. I might see if I can google anything.
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    Would be great, but people can have children and not sit an exam, sadly some kids suffer too
    Given the planet has too many people on it now and it's only getting worse - I wouldn't mind a licence here too. But it seems a lot of people feel strongly about the "right to breed" even if they never planned it, never thought about it and are now raising kids that are going to spend most of their lives in the corrections system.

    Some parents manage just fine despite their complete lack of forethought but others - I would love to revoke their breeding rights.

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