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    Ok this is more a salk/rant than anything.

    I do not breed, i have no intenetions of breeding and i believe (souly my opinion only) if you are not a registered breeder then your pets should be desexed unless they have a 100% chance of never mating with another entire dog.

    so in saying that why is desexing so bloody expensive!? ok i know why, time of vet, cost of medications etc. but for me when i look at how much money is spent on dogs in the pound that are from unwated pregnancys, impulse buys of puppys who grow to big, and just the huge amount of general unwanted dogs, couldnt the governement allocate some money to cover the cost of desexing? As a student I cant afford to desex so i have been forced to sell things to find the $300 to desex my dog as I dont want her to have puppies and in my location it is near impossible to make sure she doesnt mate with any other dog.

    Wouldnt a preventative be better than the situation we have now?

    well thats just my rant/sook. Roxy goes in thursday to get desex.

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    Why should it be the governments responsibility? If they took responsibility, it would mean that people such as myself, who nver qualify for any governemtn assistance would have to pay to desex my own dogs and my taxes would go towards paying to desex someone elses dog.

    When you get a dog, you need to ensure you have the money to care for it. That includes the cost of desexing if you want this to happen. Most people buy a puppy at 8 weeks of age. Depending on breed, that gives you up to 4 months minimum to save up the money to desex.

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    Why not a rebate? the fed government gives a 30% rebate on private health insurance. there are rebates for water tanks, solar power and graywater which depends on your zone. there is a child care rebate for those with kids and assistance for people who cant afford child care. there is books and computer rebates for students. There is an LPG rebate if u convert your car. and the list goes on.

    some of these i am eligable for some i am not. so in saying that the 10 years of taxes i have so far paid have gone to things i can not claim also. so because i choose not to have kids i dont get to claim baby bonus, family benifits etc. i know kids and pets are different but they are still a choice to have and money is needed to raise both. so my taxes are going to someone else to have and raise a kid. is that so different to your taxes going to me getting a discount on desexing of a dog?

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    We can live without dogs and we can survive as a society without dogs. If nothing else, we can survive without desexing dogs. It is not a social issue. Desexing your dog is personal individual want, not a social need.

    Everything else you have listed is a social issue: welfare, health, environment and population.
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    Yes, but if you choose to keep an animal entire (just a pet) you are judged 3 fold. You are told that you are irresponsible, that you must be planning to breed etc. It is becoming a social requirement, maybe not one by law, but it's becoming society's yardstick. Even vets judge those who have entire pets and push desexing, guilting responsible owners into putting their animals through un necessary operations. Heaven forbid you have anything to do with shelters/rescue.

    I don't see why child care rebates are offered to be honest. Yes accidents happen, but there is more than enough birth control out there and more than enough options for those who do fall pregnant for whatever reason. If you choose to have children aren't you just as responsible for their costs as a dog owner is for their dogs costs? Just as you are responsible for their behaviour to a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    We can live without dogs and we can survive as a society without dogs. If nothing else, we can survive without desexing dogs. It is not a social issue. Desexing your dog is personal individual want, not a social need.

    Everything else you have listed is a social issue: welfare, health, environment and population.
    The majority of people having kids are also the ones who have dogs. They can't afford the generic care for their children so how can they for their pets?

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    No, it isn't becoming a social issue at all. Desexing a pet doesn't even come under the radar for 99% of the population. It is animal welfare enthusiasts, some pet lovers and internet bloggers that push for the 'mandatory obligation' of desexing of all pets.

    I have never yet met a vet that will judge someone for not desexing a pet.

    AngelanBatty, I think you are basing your thoughts on your personal perceptions and experiences, which is normal, but it does not always give a true indication of the state of play of the world.

    Statements like "the majority of people having kids are also the ones who have dogs" are perceptions and anecdotal.

    Just because someone else thinks you should, it doesn't mean you have to. Even if it is law, it is still a 'want' to own a dog rather than a need. It is like me owning a car. It has to be registered and it is law I have to register it to use it. Should I expect someone else to pay for my registration if I can't afford it?
    Last edited by Anne; 05-17-2011 at 02:16 PM.
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    When lily was a pup she had a hernia and I took her to the vet they just said wait til she gets desexed and do it together cos the anaestetic is discounted when they are being desexed. I don't know if it's everywhere but at my local vet they have discount desexing and the rate for registering a dog is much less if desexed and microchipped. I think it's good that it's offered a bit cheaper. But it's not a urgent (must do today) thing. Ppl should save up then get it done

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    I have often thought that we as a society may have more influence on increasing socially responsible behavior by encouraging that behavior (ie grants, concessions ect) than by banning or restricting behavior.

    I know this would be best practice in my field of behavior therapy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceejay View Post
    Ok this is more a salk/rant than anything.

    I do not breed, i have no intenetions of breeding and i believe (souly my opinion only) if you are not a registered breeder then your pets should be desexed unless they have a 100% chance of never mating with another entire dog.

    so in saying that why is desexing so bloody expensive!? ok i know why, time of vet, cost of medications etc. but for me when i look at how much money is spent on dogs in the pound that are from unwated pregnancys, impulse buys of puppys who grow to big, and just the huge amount of general unwanted dogs, couldnt the governement allocate some money to cover the cost of desexing? As a student I cant afford to desex so i have been forced to sell things to find the $300 to desex my dog as I dont want her to have puppies and in my location it is near impossible to make sure she doesnt mate with any other dog.

    Wouldnt a preventative be better than the situation we have now?

    well thats just my rant/sook. Roxy goes in thursday to get desex.
    Personally that seems a bit steep for desexing. I paid $200 for my last one and I could have gotten it cheaper if I had wanted to go elsewhere, but chose to stick with the vet we had been using regularly.

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