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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    This is going to make me sound heartless but bare with me.

    That $5,000 could have gone such a long way in local rescues. I know every dog deserves a chance, but to blow $5,000 on one dog just because it made the news essentially just killed about 10 more waiting on treatment in rescues right here in Aus.

    Bad things happen everywhere, I'm just one of those people who think we should fix the problems in our own country first.
    I understand where you are coming from, Crested Love. But I think you miss the point. Many things have to be done simulataneously. If you concentrate on just one problem at a time, the escalation of problems will be infinite. Just because people have contributed to bring this one dog home doesn't mean that other causes are forgotten.

    Looking at it from a very simplistic viewpoint, say you have washing, ironing and drying to do. Do you stand looking at the washing machine until the cycle is finished? No. You put on some washing, hang the previous load out and then do some ironing.

    And to get back to dogs: people say why spend money on fixing the problems of an elderly dog when that money could maybe spent on several younger dogs. It is choice. Just because an elderly dog is being looked after, doesn't mean younger dogs are going to miss out. Other people will look after the younger dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    This is going to make me sound heartless but bare with me.

    That $5,000 could have gone such a long way in local rescues. I know every dog deserves a chance, but to blow $5,000 on one dog just because it made the news essentially just killed about 10 more waiting on treatment in rescues right here in Aus.

    Bad things happen everywhere, I'm just one of those people who think we should fix the problems in our own country first.
    Ok, now I am going to give you another view.... *wicked glint comes to her eye* That $5,000 spent on a dog could assist a human child in need in Australia or any where in the world. Why spend it on a dog?

    Simply put, you can't compare this dog with any other dog or with any other needy person or thing. Need is subjective.
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    True, my point was more helping many over one.

    If the soldier wanted to spend his own money getting the dog back then hooray for him (he's a soldier serving in a foreign country, don't tell me he has no money). But no, he asked the general public to do it for him.

    Yes I do do things around the house simultaneously, but lets say i have just done a load of washing and it starts to rain.
    Do I spend the extra money and fire up the dryer, sure, it gets that load of washing dry really fast, but I will run out of money before I do the next load.
    Or do I hang them out on the clothes horse and just be patient and spend the money I saved on more washing powder to be able to wash more clothes.

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    Yeah, I am kind of surprised at the number of peope who ask for public help these days. Years (and years ago) people wouldn't ask for help even when they should because of old fashioned values and pride. This seems to have slowly evolved to where we are now - everyone asks everyone to help them without a touch of pride getting in the way.
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    Haha yup.

    I have no problem with people asking for help... when they truly need it.

    On another forum I am on a lady's lease ran out on her home and she would soon be homeless.
    A friend organised a house for her. It was 3 bedroom and in a posh area.
    It was just her and her daughter that would be staying there and the house was huge.
    She had no job, she was only receiving welfare, so she asked everyone on the forum to chip in and help her pay the bond.

    I'm sorry, but no way.
    I am not giving someone money to stay in a huge house when they could have easily afforded a smaller, less expensive house themselves.
    You buy what you can afford. If I had a choice I wouldn't be living where we are now, but we live comfortably, our budget is not stretched just because I wanted a fancy house.

    Sorry, strayed off topic there.

    If people want to donate to causes like in the OP then that's fine, you have saved this dog from a terrible life and given it a better one, that's a great thing... but would you have seeked and and donated to bring a dog from Afghanistan to Aus if it wasn't plastered all over the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florence View Post
    I understand where you are coming from, Crested Love. But I think you miss the point. Many things have to be done simulataneously. If you concentrate on just one problem at a time, the escalation of problems will be infinite. Just because people have contributed to bring this one dog home doesn't mean that other causes are forgotten.

    Looking at it from a very simplistic viewpoint, say you have washing, ironing and drying to do. Do you stand looking at the washing machine until the cycle is finished? No. You put on some washing, hang the previous load out and then do some ironing.

    And to get back to dogs: people say why spend money on fixing the problems of an elderly dog when that money could maybe spent on several younger dogs. It is choice. Just because an elderly dog is being looked after, doesn't mean younger dogs are going to miss out. Other people will look after the younger dogs.
    The most substantial funds for this rescue came from soldiers families, that is why the money came in so quickly. It makes sense to me that soldiers usually support one an other. I am happy that I contributed and feel no shame in doing so.
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    Default yes because my daughter has had the organisation on facebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Haha yup.

    I have no problem with people asking for help... when they truly need it.

    On another forum I am on a lady's lease ran out on her home and she would soon be homeless.
    A friend organised a house for her. It was 3 bedroom and in a posh area.
    It was just her and her daughter that would be staying there and the house was huge.
    She had no job, she was only receiving welfare, so she asked everyone on the forum to chip in and help her pay the bond.

    I'm sorry, but no way.
    I am not giving someone money to stay in a huge house when they could have easily afforded a smaller, less expensive house themselves.
    You buy what you can afford. If I had a choice I wouldn't be living where we are now, but we live comfortably, our budget is not stretched just because I wanted a fancy house.

    Sorry, strayed off topic there.

    If people want to donate to causes like in the OP then that's fine, you have saved this dog from a terrible life and given it a better one, that's a great thing... but would you have seeked and and donated to bring a dog from Afghanistan to Aus if it wasn't plastered all over the internet?
    yes, it is my daughter who first alerted me to that site for donations, but her interest and heart went out to donkeys! She also contributes to other save the animal funds, both here and overseas, depending where her heart strings go. Surely that is democracy. We are not living in a communist country, thank God.
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