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Thread: How Far Should an Offleash Dog or Dogs Go Before Our Leashed Dogs Should React?

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    and for the record, does what happened make you an irresponsible dog owner? Not in my opinion. Should she have behaved herself and proved beyond any doubt that your control is therefore effective? some here believe so, I however am not as rigid.

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    There's no way I'd grab the toothy end of an angry dog.

    does she need retraining
    You're still going on about that.

    We had a thread in here fairly recently where a person who had two dogs on lead supposedly "under control" - that killed a cat they dragged from under a bush. That's on lead - sure, but not my idea of "under control".

    Maybe it's the owners that need "retraining".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Chey View Post
    and for the record, does what happened make you an irresponsible dog owner? Not in my opinion. Should she have behaved herself and proved beyond any doubt that your control is therefore effective? some here believe so, I however am not as rigid.
    Also for the record, I around the age of five, witnessed a family members bullterrier latch onto a huge german shepherd male and was ushered indoors but remember the horrendous sounds coming from the shepherd. His name was rebel, and his death seemed to linger for ages. My uncle always had dogs and I thought a secure handle on dog raising, behaviour etc. He apparently did everything in his power, and be a certain something with a garden hose and rear end of bullterrier (I was told years later), but Rebel died during that attack.

    Perhaps my love for German Shepherds come from that moment as does more probable, my dislike of bullterriers so forgive me for scoffing at others posts who make grabbing back legs, or pulling back legs or whatever sound so damned easy a solution to abort a potentially life threatening situation, for the dog under attack. It's not as easy as abc, thats'where my argument for compromising situations came into effect, because there are heaps of compromising situations, they are not a rare entity. Yeah you do what you do at the time as your loyal friend is in trouble, but major point, dog off leash attacking (not owner of dog on leashes fault), nor does it have anything to do with retraining, behaviour or anything else, it is black and white.
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    Possibly in that situation - once the bull terrier latched on - the only thing that could have saved the GSD was if your uncle had choked off the BT's air supply until it fell unconscious. Not an easy thing to do during a dog fight.

    But your "record" does not address the cause of the fight - why did the BT latch on, why did it have the opportunity.

    For the record - one of the sweetest natured never pick a fight or continue one dog I know is a bull terrier. And she is the strongest jawed dog I've ever met. Getting her to let go of tug toys involves pushing her lip on her tooth but she's not beserk when I do that.

    Dog on lead can be out of control - eg the cat killers - now I'm repeating myself. It's never black and white. Big dogs are usually capable of doing far more damage than little dogs - hence the requirement for those owners to be more careful of their dog's welfare and training. And sometimes things happen very fast, and it helps to have a ready plan of action.

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    I think even in an off leash area you still need to have control of your dog, in fact I think the law states it. I know it is never going to happen like that. I personally spend a lot of time training off leash recall. I hate when my dog rushes towards other dogs without permission, it is rude.

    A lady I know who takes her dog to the local off leash area was throwing a ball for her dog. Her dog raced full pelt towards a man walking some distance away and buzzed him a few times not aggressively ignoring the owners calls. The man happened to be the ranger and informed her he could book her for having an out of control dog charging at pedestrians. He gave her a warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Possibly in that situation - once the bull terrier latched on - the only thing that could have saved the GSD was if your uncle had choked off the BT's air supply until it fell unconscious. Not an easy thing to do during a dog fight.

    But your "record" does not address the cause of the fight - why did the BT latch on, why did it have the opportunity.

    For the record - one of the sweetest natured never pick a fight or continue one dog I know is a bull terrier. And she is the strongest jawed dog I've ever met. Getting her to let go of tug toys involves pushing her lip on her tooth but she's not beserk when I do that.

    Dog on lead can be out of control - eg the cat killers - now I'm repeating myself. It's never black and white. Big dogs are usually capable of doing far more damage than little dogs - hence the requirement for those owners to be more careful of their dog's welfare and training. And sometimes things happen very fast, and it helps to have a ready plan of action.
    of course - bullterriers now! A nelsons hold is what I believe you are referring to-done (big man, my uncle-so what have you got to say now?) dogs resided together, no problems until that day, do some research with regard to dogs that turn for no reason we can as humans comprehend-people that cant control their dogs on lead does not apply to me, so take it up with someone else. BTW I will donate to any animal rescue that I see fit, including the plight of a mutilated german shepherd, as I love them and support them as I also contribute to other animal rescue organisations, primarily the AWL.
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    I would be booked easily. My dogs will race up to everyone and anyone to jump all over them.

    They love people and other dogs. They especially love children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Chey View Post
    of course - bullterriers now! A nelsons hold is what I believe you are referring to-done (big man, my uncle-so what have you got to say now?) dogs resided together, no problems until that day, do some research with regard to dogs that turn for no reason we can as humans comprehend-people that cant control their dogs on lead does not apply to me, so take it up with someone else. BTW I will donate to any animal rescue that I see fit, including the plight of a mutilated german shepherd, as I love them and support them as I also contribute to other animal rescue organisations, primarily the AWL.


    indeed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Chey View Post
    , he said she said, should not have had to rpt. the hind legs-lol, what size dog are we talking about here? lmao
    Now that is totally unnecessary and uncalled for.

    A lot of members on this forum have been gracious in allowing this thread - and you - to continue rambling unabated about your issue, yet now you seek to laugh in the face of those who support you?

    I think it's time for you to go away, do some growing up, and come back and then apologise to those who you are now becoming belligerent to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    I have a recent event, where Tessa was attacked unprovoked by a Blue heeler, off leash, whilst we were walking on lead. I grabbed the Blue Heeler by his back legs to try and get him off. It did not work and I had to get him off her throat, he was clamping down and her eyes were bulging.........So I tried to pry the jaws and at least got him of her, he bit me, rather severely, still painful at times
    And my stupid Tessa then went to attack him. Anyway it ended well......Old guy came with a shovel and dog took off, never to be seen again.
    No-one was with that dog....No one to blame and to be cross with. Just me responsible for my own dog and having to do what I do automatically, protect my dogs. I know I was stupid getting into a dog fight. But I did not think, adrenaline rush and very angry.
    So I cannot blame anyone and I just get on. I still walk my dogs, I still keep an eye out. But I still think that mostly nothing happens.
    I drive a car, there are a lot of lunatics on the road. One driver can kill other people by being stupid, it could be me one day. But I still drive a car.
    Some may call it stupid, personally I don't. It's what you do when you are whole-hearted about something, an auto-response to protect those that are in your care.

    I have done the same thing, and have no fear about doing it again, even though the result of the first instance left me more scarred than sore.

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