View Poll Results: Should dog owners keep their unleashed dogs from invading the space of leashed dogs?

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  • Unleashed dogs should not be allowed to approach leashed dogs

    16 80.00%
  • unleashed dogs should be able to approach leashed dogs

    5 25.00%
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Thread: How Far Should an Offleash Dog or Dogs Go Before Our Leashed Dogs Should React?

  1. #21
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    Default Humans are humans, I run with the dogs! less chance of being bitten.

    I have been asked to reply with quotes. I, indeed can do it, as I believe you may be aware by now, I march to my own drum, have my own set of wings and do not fly under the radar, nor have a gang mentality deficit. Bernie, replied to my post, assuming my dog Cheyanne had done something unworthy. That in itself deeply offends me. My Cheyanne lives on and cannot be replaced by our new girl Dakota. Dakota, however is a personality replica of Cheyanne. I guess it comes down to my bad management. In my original post, rewind the tape, where at any point in time did I or Cheyanne deserve to receive unwarranted criticisms. The following post that supported Bernie, was even more hurtful, because that individual was acting out of allegiance and I dare say- had not even read what I had written. That person whom I have noticed with their dog rosie, has somehow removed the post that continued this source of inflammation. An innocent bystander obviously, supported my post, but TROLLS and go back under the bridge is just as evil as someone saying trashy mouth, but I guess the support and thumbs up will be rallied for that individual! Hipocracy all around. Some come in, now and support my posts, where then and under what rationale were my dog and I deemed irresponsible, or me placing my dog or myself at risk (post removed by the person with rosie)? It was so simple...my dog should not have to tolerate in any place or footpath or oval or beach or wherever the bloody heck I take her, any off the leash dog approaching her with aggro-and for the unleashed supporters-read my previous post, where I stated I had nothing against those whom chose to take the risk of going into an all in offleash dog park.

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    If you look at the poll stats you will find that the majority agree with you Dakota-chey.

    I don't mind people sharing their opinions and having their say but I don't like rude remarks about people thrown around. If you are feeling offended and attacked, then you are entitled to express that and you have done so

    Perhaps leave the assumptions at the door though. There is no hypocrisy here or gang mentality. We are all free thinkers and just because some people agree with others, it doesn't mean they pretend to agree just to gang up on an innocent person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Chey View Post
    I have been asked to reply with quotes. I, indeed can do it, as I believe you may be aware by now, I march to my own drum, have my own set of wings and do not fly under the radar, nor have a gang mentality deficit. Bernie, replied to my post, assuming my dog Cheyanne had done something unworthy. That in itself deeply offends me. My Cheyanne lives on and cannot be replaced by our new girl Dakota. Dakota, however is a personality replica of Cheyanne. I guess it comes down to my bad management. In my original post, rewind the tape, where at any point in time did I or Cheyanne deserve to receive unwarranted criticisms. The following post that supported Bernie, was even more hurtful, because that individual was acting out of allegiance and I dare say- had not even read what I had written. That person whom I have noticed with their dog rosie, has somehow removed the post that continued this source of inflammation. An innocent bystander obviously, supported my post, but TROLLS and go back under the bridge is just as evil as someone saying trashy mouth, but I guess the support and thumbs up will be rallied for that individual! Hipocracy all around. Some come in, now and support my posts, where then and under what rationale were my dog and I deemed irresponsible, or me placing my dog or myself at risk (post removed by the person with rosie)? It was so simple...my dog should not have to tolerate in any place or footpath or oval or beach or wherever the bloody heck I take her, any off the leash dog approaching her with aggro-and for the unleashed supporters-read my previous post, where I stated I had nothing against those whom chose to take the risk of going into an all in offleash dog park.
    I believe the member you think has removed her post is Pinkest (she has a dog named Rosie) and her post is still there it is post number 3

    The onus is on you to control your dog, whether on lead or off.

    I had a situation none too long ago where a very borderline-dog-aggressive pooch being "walked" by his owner actually pulled them over trying to get to Rosie - instead of, like when you come off a horse - you hold onto the reins - this owner let go of the leash. Big dog running us down, hackles up, on a street in the middle of the day, with the owner by now sitting on the pavement just watching {akin to car-crash TV I assume}, frozen.

    It's a bloody good thing that I am not afraid of dogs, nor am I afraid to take on a dog, so I was able to get Rosie sat and waiting for me in the seconds before this dog was upon us. Luckily it stopped about 6 feet away, hackles still up, but now becoming fear-agressive, as in "oh ****, now what do I do?". So I took a step forward, called on my inner scary-person and "ached" and "go!"'d that dog to get his attention, and another step forward and leaned over it. Not the best thing to do, goading a dog, but he had to know that I wasn't going to sumbit, so I had to call his bluff. No other choice.

    Lucky for me and Rosie, it worked, he ran back to his owner with tail wagging.

    Owner could not understand why I then proceed to tear strips off them for not being in control of the dog... "oh, he's too strong for me, I'm sorry, he's freindly, he didn't mean any harm". Bullsh!t that dog was friendly, but you're right, that dog is too strong for you because you nancy around and let him dominate you.

    So, even if a dog is on a leash, it is not necessarily under control, and had the worst happened, you bet I would have strung that owner up and taken them to court and given them a lesson in accountability they would never ever forget.

    You own a dog, you control it. Simple. As for "compromising situations" - to me, that is another way of trying to define the length of a piece of string, as Bernie has clearly outlined. Your idea of "compromised" is almost certainly not going to match the idea of "compromised" under the law. Why on earth would you risk your future, not mention your dog's, for the sake of an undefinable set of circumstances?
    I still cannot find anywhere in either topic where Bernie assumed your dog Cheyanne had done something unworthy?

    The reason we ask you to use quotes is so we know which people/posts you are referring to when you say someone has accused or insinuated something about you. As it is without quotes we do not know what you are referring to and I have looked and cannot find anything.

    In relation to the topic as I posted in the other thread I do not believe the expectations that dogs on leads should be bombproof is reasonable. I have a dog who has DA issues and if another dog ran up to her whilst she was onlead I cannot guarantee her reaction. I do take steps to make sure we are not in situations where this might happen but I am very vigilant anyways because there are always those owners who let their dogs off leash in areas they shouldn't be and have no control. I know Hyacinth(correct me if I am wrong) actually has been put in that sort of situation in the past so I am sure as per your poll you have a lot of support in this matter, even if there is some opposition.

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    I agree - No one should be approached by an unleashed dog that no-one has control over, whether friendly or unfriendly. That is not what I was annoyed by, that is NOT what I disagreed with.

    I asked you to quote because I was only aware of this thread. I have not read any of your other threads, nor will I at this point.

    I think that it may be an idea for you to re-read what has been posted. What Bernie posted IN THIS THREAD was what I was referring to. I hold NO allegiance to anybody here - I've never even met most of the members here! I agree with what holds true to my opinions.

    I did not know anything about anything previous to this thread that you have posted, I reacted to posts (NOT YOURS) that were a rude, inflammatory ATTACK on a personal level to another member who has helped countless others, myself included.

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    angelan batty,

    you sound like a ****ing stupid ignorant human being, your probley a more ignorant pet owner, PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULDNT HAVE PETS. I feel sorry for your pet.

    you are obviously a bored fat housewife that sits on the forum allday long waiting until hubby gets home so you can spend his money thats his worked hard for. Go watch a re-run of OPRAH or hey actually do something useful - clean the house.

    FYI - PET OWNERS LIKE YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR DOG ON A LEASH WHEN OUT WALKING..... EVERYWHERE BECAUSE BIG DOGS DO DAMAGE TO HUMANS AND SMALLER DOGS.

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    So many things that I could say.

    Please see rules of this forum.

    AND puggers warning.

    Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuller.k View Post
    angelan batty,

    you sound like a ****ing stupid ignorant human being, your probley a more ignorant pet owner, PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULDNT HAVE PETS. I feel sorry for your pet.

    you are obviously a bored fat housewife that sits on the forum allday long waiting until hubby gets home so you can spend his money thats his worked hard for. Go watch a re-run of OPRAH or hey actually do something useful - clean the house.

    FYI - PET OWNERS LIKE YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR DOG ON A LEASH WHEN OUT WALKING..... EVERYWHERE BECAUSE BIG DOGS DO DAMAGE TO HUMANS AND SMALLER DOGS.


    LMAO I'm a hard working divorcee thank you.

    I think I hit a nerve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuller.k View Post
    angelan batty,

    you sound like a ****ing stupid ignorant human being, your probley a more ignorant pet owner, PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULDNT HAVE PETS. I feel sorry for your pet.

    you are obviously a bored fat housewife that sits on the forum allday long waiting until hubby gets home so you can spend his money thats his worked hard for. Go watch a re-run of OPRAH or hey actually do something useful - clean the house.

    FYI - PET OWNERS LIKE YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR DOG ON A LEASH WHEN OUT WALKING..... EVERYWHERE BECAUSE BIG DOGS DO DAMAGE TO HUMANS AND SMALLER DOGS.
    A serious reply:

    I am a bit overweight. Not a wife anymore - nice try though. I hate oprah & shows like it and barely watch any tv, and I suffer from OCD, quite badly, my house is pristine.

    Yep... I'd feel sorry for this dog too... He's obviously neglected and a horrible dog! Photo's taken this afternoon
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    I just have to say quickly I have seen a Maltese X bite a toddler because it's 'responsible' owner continuosly pick up the small dog when ever the child visited and the small dog got the Idea it was better that the child... Sorry Small dogs do damage to humans too.
    thankfully the child only had minor injuries but the dog was put to sleep as it quiet clearly drew blood(mutal agreement no legal action was required). The owner still has small dogs but doesn't pick them up anymore and has never had the problem since. The child will only pat big dogs because she no longer feels safe with small dogs.

    ALL DOGS should be on lead when greeting other dogs and humans

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    I would choose the poll option that is not there -

    dogs should not be allowed to approach other dogs (within sniffing/biting distance) without both owners' agreement.

    leash on or off is irrelevant. I always put my dog on lead if the other dog is on lead while I have that discussion with the other owner.

    Either owner should be able to ask the dogs to be separated at any time with the other owner's aggreement and help ie calling the dogs apart so one can go home when required.

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