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    My six month old cocker has been with us for a little over a week now.
    She has access to both indoor and outdoor areas, (indoor when WE feel is appropriate) and she has been doing very well with her toileting. She has not done one "accident" inside since being with us which is great.
    At night due to it being FREEZING a take her out one last time to go to the toilet and then she is placed in her bed in the laundry. The laundry is connected to the kitchen so we leave that door open ( giving her access to the kitchen and laundry areas ((quite spacious))) the kitchen has a baby gate on the other end to stop my 1 yr old going in there which also stops sasha getting to the rest of the house over night. once in her bed she is fine for about ten minutes... then the small crying starts.. which is fine i let her do that i understand its an attention seeking thing...
    Then it stops for five minutes then starts up again.. Then it stops again for about ten-fifteen minutes this time.. we all start getting to sleep and thinking the noise is over... THEN THE HOWLING STARTS! and does not stop! i have googled it.. tried the go in quickly say no and retreat just as fast, it works for roughly 30 seconds... i have tried the water squirting in the face ( one method which i cant say i liked doing too much). same thing it stops until i get back upstairs.
    I am stumped on what to do, i dont worry about myself too much i have raised two babies i am used to up down up down all night but my husband works horrible hours and needs his sleep. And the VERY LOUD howling wakes my two young children, its a never ending cycle. I am also worried about my neighbours...
    Any idea??? and thanks for those who had patience to read my post!!

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    How long has she been howling? Is it a new thing or something she has done almost from day one and you are still trying to work through it?

    If it is new development, it maybe a stage of her development (much like when a human baby begins to get clingy for a short while) or it could also be that the nights are getting colder.

    I would ensure she has the best of beds that is snuggly and warm and that the laundry area is as warm as possible. Hot water bottles (if she isn't a chewer) are great for warmth and last many hours.

    I would not let her cry for one second, even if it is quiet, as you know from experience it will build in levels. The minute she sooks, give a short and sharp NO! I stamp my feet at the same time with my troublesome boy and the noise instantly stops him. If it was Summer, I'd suggest a squirt from a water spray bottle at the same time as the short sharp no, but it will be too cold to do this now. A wet cold dog will only have more reasons to sook.

    Be consistent. You may need to do this over the top reprimand for a week or so before the dog stops.
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    thank you for your advice, she has been doing doing the howling from the get go.
    I know she just wants attention... but its not the greatest of sounds while trying to sleep! lol

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    we had the same problem with our now, 16 week puppy. we made him sleep in the blocked off hall way at night. the first few weeks were pretty terrible with crying and barking..i was worried it was because he needed the toilet (we keep him in a crate at night) but every time i went to let him out for the toilet he would run to our bedroom instead. i did notice he always slept better on weekends because we were home and keeping him active all day. during the week days, whilst we are at work he must sleep a lot of the day away. Not letting them sleep a few hours before bed time also helps.

    In the end I'm afraid to say that my partner and i caved and for the past few weeks our pup has been sleeping in his crate in our bedroom. not ideal, but it now means we all get a good nights sleep.
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    well it works for some people i guess but for us we need her to be able to sleep in that area...

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    I can guarantee you that if you completely ignore the behaviour it will stop.

    Alternatively give her a nice juicy bone or rawhide chew just before you go to bed, make sure she starts chewing on it, then head off to bed. Worked wonders for Batty's odd bad night

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    yeh i know it works to just ignore... but it gets ignored for over AN HOUR before she goes to sleep.. just want it not to happen at all.

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    i'm no expert here but i'de probably stop with the getting up just to say "no" or any other form of attention such as the water bottle. in her mind she probably thinks she's getting what she wants, your attention. you could always try putting her away in her room before you all head off to bed? and make sure she loves her room, practice putting her in there during the day and praise when quiet.

    you say she's 6 months old..did you adopt her from a pound or..?

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    You can try rewarding for when she's quiet - only go to her when she's quiet and give her a treat.

    When I first got my puppy, I tried sticking her out in a crate in the kitchen but the heart rending screaming was too much for me. So she sleeps next to my bed and we're both happy. She does feel brave enough now to occasionally sleep on the couch instead. (cos I'm not the easiest person to sleep next to, even if we do have separate beds, I do occasionally chuck blankies on her by accident).

    So at the moment we are experimenting with being crated at dog club - because for agility we have to set up and pull down gear and it's not ok to let a friendly dog off lead go greet everyone and I can't keep the lead on and set up gear etc. So in the crate she goes, but if she starts barking when I go near the crate, I turn and go away from the crate. If I can get to the crate - I feed her loads of treats through the sides of it, and also practice "crate games" by Susan Garrett.

    When I first put her in the crate, I shut the door and feed her treats through the roof before she can get started on the barking/howling. And then I take three steps away and straight back and more treats, and I work on varying the distance and time without her barking. Then I go set up and let her do her thing, and I don't go back until she's quiet. So reward is I walk towards her while she's quiet and if she barks, correction is - I turn and walk away, having already put quite a bit of time into rewarding her for being quiet and making sure I don't reward her being noisy.

    You have to reward your dog for being quiet, and not reward it (stay away) when it is noisy. Will take a while but it will be worth it - if leaving your dog out there all alone is what you need to do.

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    Attention is attention. She knows that if she barks or howls she gets you to talk to her.

    Like Tiff said, I'd start rewarding her good behaviour. When she is quiet, and can't see you, just pop in and tell her she's a good girl, give her a treat. Let her know that sitting there quietly is the best thing for her to be doing.

    I'd also put her in the laundry BEFORE bed (hours before), maybe for 15 minutes, then when she's been good let her out. Then do it again the next day for half an hour and build it up so she becomes comfortable with that space and learns that waiting quietly will get her out.

    Good luck!

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