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    Talking Koolie Dogs...

    Is anyone able to give me some information on this breed?

    Am I right that their not a reconised breed?

    How do I find out if the breeders are registered??? And where may I find a list?

    I live in the wheatbelt (country) and been interested in this breed for sometime. We currently have one dog (purebred Kelpie - not from a registered breeder) and been thinking for more then two years now about introducing a new K9 family member.
    We personally take the decision very seriously so have taken such a long time to make sure we are perfectly set for another member and although we are we won't go out and buy the nearest dog to us. We do this with all new members of our family.

    My husband loves the Kelpie breed and after I stumbled along the Koolie I instantly fell in love and have done extensive research and would like to know more of what people can personally tell me about them. It is my 'turn' to choose the desired breed as he already has what he has wanted.
    We have many thousands of acres. We haven't always taken much interest into their breeding but having bred horses I understand the importance of breeding with care and have always bought horses registered with their respective society and bred my horse to strict conditions.

    Not experienced with the dog world I'd like to know how I'd know if a Koolie breeder is registered. What traits to watch out for?

    Their not purebred...so what are they?

    This time round I want to purchase from a registered breeder.

    I'm prepared to drive across the country and buy a puppy and so would like to know I'm doing things right.

    Our Kelpie was bought at a market about 6 years ago now and is nothing but awesome! But as mentioned I'm a horse person and I like to know past pedigree and family history!

    Thanks in advance!

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    Koolies aren't recognized by the ANKC (Australian National Kennel Council).
    There are many breeds that do exist but are not recognized, unfortunately, this makes finding a legitimate breeder hard.
    Reputable breeders breed for the purpose of "bettering the breed", if a breed is not recognized then a lot of people simply do not want to put the time, effort and money into something that you do not get much reward from. Yes I am thinking dog shows, I know this is not important to a lot of people here, but for many reputable breeders, ribbons in the show ring is what we strive for, it proves we are breeding good dogs.

    In saying that though I know one lady who imported a breed from America that was not recognized here in Aus. She worked extremely hard to get the breed recognized, it was a long road but she succeeded and now has several champions and is still importing and breeding more dogs of that breed.

    If you want a Koolie because you like the look of them maybe try an Australian Shepherd... They are much more readily available and were bred down from Koolies.

    There are 78 breeders of Aussie Shepherds registered on Dogzonline and 8 puppy notices

    Australian Shepherd - Breeders - Puppies - Australia

    Australian Shepherd Breeders, Australia

    You can view a list with photos and breeders of all breeds recognized in Aus here: Dogz Online - The Pure Breed Dogs of Australia

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    I live in the WA wheatbelt and own a working Koolie. They are indeed a recognised breed. The ANKC doesnt hold the right on recognised breeds, just because they dont recognise it doesnt mean it is not a breed. I hope they never recognise the Koolie. The Koolie should be bred on working ability not to conform to a rigid looks standard. Sorry - I am not keen on what they (ANKC) have done to the BC.

    I belong to the Working Koolie Association of Australia and my dog is registered with them, they have very reputable breeders as members who breed their dogs to a working standard and keep a strict record of their pedigrees. Working ability is extremely important as is health. There are some less than reputable breeders as with any breed.

    Howard Warnock is the man to talk to, he is a fountain of Koolie knowledge and breeds working Koolies. He can recommend breeders in WA if that is the wheatbelt you are referring to. He is in Victoria.

    The Koolie is desperate to please and has a very good work ethic, my Koolie is exceptionally eager to please and very easy to train. He is also a joy in the house and knows how to chill out.

    A beautiful, healthy stable breed bred for what it was intended - to work livestock, they also come in different shapes and sizes, much the same as the working bred BC - short and rough coat. My koolie is a big short coated red merle dog, a friend of mine has a rough coated, smaller version.

    Show ribbons are worthless in the working world although I am certainly not opposed for the majority of other breeds. Koolies registered with the Working Koolie association are actually recognised by ANKC for their sporting register. The proof of a working dog is in the paddock or in the working sheepdog associations trialing arena

    workingkoolieassoc@hotmail.com or nomadskoolies@hotmail.com (Howards email)

    Here is there website http://www.freewebs.com/workingkoolie/

    Training my young Koolie on sheep. I also train him for agility at which he excels.

    Last edited by Kalacreek; 04-28-2011 at 08:21 AM.

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    Thankyou so much guys for this information. It is exactly what I'm after.

    Kalacreek - no doubt we arn't far from each other. Thanks for the contacts! Where did you get your boy from? He's gorgeous!

    I'm not interested in showing the dog (I show my horses instead!). I want to know that the Koolie is bred for its agility and not just its funky colours?

    It would be excellent if I could track down some local owners or breeders (anywhere in WA) to visit and check out the breed personally.

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    google search came up with this Koolie Club

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    Quote Originally Posted by reyzor View Post
    google search came up with this Koolie Club
    Nah - you want the Working Koolie association.

    Colorado - my Koolie came from working parents in the wheatbelt. The parents were originally from Victoria. Dont think they are breeding as the farmer just wanted some youngsters and mine was surplus to requirements, but he kept 3.

    Howard will be able to let you know who breeds what in WA and probably what litters are on offer. Jane Dorrell is the WA contact and she used to breed Koolies but not currently. Their phone numbers are on the website. Howard will chat for ages!

    I did see 3 blue merles for sale in the Farm weekly a few weeks ago.

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    Just had to say Koolies are gorgeous. The ones I've met are awesome dogs too - similar temperament to kelpies but still different. Very sensitive and switched on to their owner and surroundings.

    Plus they often turn up in country pounds - there is a dedicated Koolie rescue group as well: Koolie Rescue

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    One of our SA state agility champs is a coolie. Very cute dog, very smart, very fast and agile but sometimes looks at the boss like the dog knows better... oops.

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    Hi Colarado,
    Kalacreek is right, Howard is certainly a source of information that will benefit you in finding a new K/Coolie. I, myself, have a Coolie (Norms Coolies from Tanunda SA) and can attest to the nature of them. Very loyal, very loving and devoted hard workers.
    Howard has a few dogs ready to go right now if you are still interested. Worth calling him to see if he can help you. His contact details are on his website for Nomads Koolies
    Good luck with your search

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    My parents saw Norm and his Coolies must be 25 years ago! According to Howard he is breeding his own "Norms" Coolie.

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