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  1. #111
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    I seem to have missed this thread LOL

    I dont think it is fair to tell nochip they should be worrying about other issues. This is obviously an issue they feel passionately about and they shoudl be able to work towqards a goal without feeling like they could be doing something more worthwhile.

    My dogs are microchipped. But ONLY because it is compulsory here and it was a requirement of import from NZ. The vet checks for the position of the chip whenever we go in but one of them has migrated and if the dog goes missing, it is unlikely the chip will be found, therefore making the chipping completely pointless.

    Also I agree with the databases, my dogs are registered on some data base...btu what happens if they are stolen and taken to WA? The microchip will be completely useless. I think there should be ONE database only...a national one.

    In NZ, microchipping was made compulsory a few years ago. The only people who didnt have to microchip were people whos dogs were over a certain age before the law was brought in (it was up to them if they wanted to do it) and working dogs. Why wouldnt working dogs be chipped? Surely it would be more important for them to be chipped....it just doesnt make sense to me. My dogs were over the required age and so I opted to not chip them.

    I am not anti chipping at all. I think it can serve a purpose and does serve a good purpose sometimes. However, I am completely against compulsory chipping. Making it compulsory isnt going to mean that **** dog owners get their dogs chipped. It isnt going to mean that every lost dog is reunited with its owner. It wont stop lost chipped dogs from being rehomed without the owner being contacted. And I could go on and on.

    The thing is, now it is compulsory to chip the dogs...what becomes compulsory next? Do we agree to every new child being chipped so that the government can keep track of them? Sound outrageous doesn't it, but this is something already being discussed.

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    I went for an interview at CAR when they first started up, from memory it was about 20 years ago... (I didnt take the job) ... but I was told at the time that microchiping was being used in the aboriginal communities, not sure how factual it is, and I can't find any reference to it... I know that all zoo animals are chippped... I understand that there is a small risk to the animal, but I do believe that the risks are minimal and not even worth consideration when you loose an animal... I am still waiting for the day my last stolen pup turns up and she will only be regonisable now by her chip...

    Oh as for the diff databases, when you ring one with the number they will put you on to the correct database so its not really a big problem .... and their is a internet site that rescues can put the number into and it will tell which database it is registered to...
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    What is CAR?

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    Central Animal Records.

    I actually paid to have my dogs details put onto multiple databases, plus they're both on National Pet Register too. They're also registered with the RSPCA, as my cat is.

    It cost me something like $20 or $30 to do & was worth every cent to me.

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    We found a little Lab puppy on our doorstep when we first moved into this house. No chip, no tags.
    We did reunite that dog with its owner so it can happen without a chip, but where I live there is only one shelter so all missing dogs are taken there. In larger cities with multiple shelters or a large area where the dog can roam chips are an extremely handy tool.

    I do understand that nochip has a problem with it being compulsory, I do agree to a point, but this is something that is GOOD to be compulsory.
    Yes the Government dictates what we can and can't do and yes, some of it is completely stupid, but a lot of their rules are there for good reason.
    It is also compulsory to wear a seatbelt in a car, seatbelts can cause a lot of damage. I was watching a medical program where a girl had been involved in a car accident and her belly button piercing had been forced inside her stomach by the seatbelt. But you know what, the girl survived, and if she hadn't been wearing the seatbelt she could have been killed.
    I guess my point is, a small risk of injury far outweighs the risk of being killed, same as microchips. The small risk of something going wrong outweighs your dog being taken and used for dog fighting, or being put the sleep in the shelter because they can't find the owner.

    There are a lot of people who won't bother chipping anyway, same as they haven't bothered registering their dogs. I highly doubt my neighbors have applied for a kennel license for their 4 mutts, and I highly doubt they will bother chipping them.
    But by making it compulsory hopefully there will be a bad stigma attached to dogs and puppies that aren't chipped. Which will further help weed out backyard breeders and dodgy resellers, if you aren't going to chip once the law comes in they probably aren't going to spend money on vaccinations and worming either.
    A lot of people don't realize that TCA dogs need to be chipped anyway, the publicity surrounding the compulsory chipping will (I hope) make people think twice about buying a dog that isn't.

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    REMINDER

    For those wishing to sign the petition, sponsored by myself, there's a link in my posting on 28th April 2011 (page 8 of this thread). If you share my views regarding the need for putting the brakes on govts which make m/c COMPULSORY, please use the LINK and support me by SIGNING the petition.

    As my time is currently being used on emailing people about the petition I shall not, for the time being, get involved in further discussion on issues within this thread, unless something new and significant emerges.

    COMPENSATION

    Something I do regard as significant is that, unless I missed something, there has been no response to my suggestion that forum members contribute to a fund which would provide surety for vet/legal expenses incurred by a person whose pet gets cancer and/or dies as a consequence of being chipped.

    I made the suggestion because compensation is not provided for in Tas (and presumably in other jurisdictions).

    Saville ("nochip")

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    CAR = Central Animal Records

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    Quote Originally Posted by nochip View Post
    REMINDER

    For those wishing to sign the petition, sponsored by myself, there's a link in my posting on 28th April 2011 (page 8 of this thread). If you share my views regarding the need for putting the brakes on govts which make m/c COMPULSORY, please use the LINK and support me by SIGNING the petition.

    As my time is currently being used on emailing people about the petition I shall not, for the time being, get involved in further discussion on issues within this thread, unless something new and significant emerges.

    COMPENSATION

    Something I do regard as significant is that, unless I missed something, there has been no response to my suggestion that forum members contribute to a fund which would provide surety for vet/legal expenses incurred by a person whose pet gets cancer and/or dies as a consequence of being chipped.

    I made the suggestion because compensation is not provided for in Tas (and presumably in other jurisdictions).

    Saville ("nochip")
    I think that all dog owners already pay enough to keep our dogs (the reposnible ones anyway). Why would we contribute to a fund to pay for other people's possible compensation for dogs/cats that may or may not have cancer from microchipping.

    How about these people get pet insurance then they are covered and don't have to fork out massive amounts of money if their pet does get sick.

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    Hmmm, soliciting money. No doubt the so called fund would be administered by you.
    Lordy I hate fanatics of any causes/religions/lifestyle etc. I particularly dislike scammers and spammers.
    Last edited by Di_dee1; 05-01-2011 at 08:26 PM.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    I think this thread has done it's course.
    If no-chip has nothing further to contribute to this forum other than this topic, then I guess it will be the last we will see of him.

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