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    Hi there,

    I own this very gentle male staffy crossed, he is 7yo now. His behaviour has always been exemplary. Since a few years now, we go to visit my friend Nick that owns a male Kelpi, 3 years younger.

    Since day one, Doom (my dog) is acting funny at the sight of Bif (the kelpi). He walks on tip toes very slowly and growls at him. Bif is pitipatering all over the place and seems not too sure of what he has done wrong. He often tries to approach Doom but Doom turns his back at him and carried on his awkward behaviour. It is becoming really embarrassing because now I live there and Doom keeps going just like day one.

    They went trough a few fights but it happened only because of someone was stirring them up. Usually it is just tactical standby between the two. I take them both across the road to play stick and they seem to share the exercise pretty well, Bif who is the fastest concedes to Doom the privilege of the fetch.

    But on a daily basis, it is really annoying, constant growling etc.. What to do??

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    2 males can end in disaster even if they are both desexed (they are both desexed right?) some dogs just do not tolerate other dogs of the same sex, some are even just biased towards specific dogs.

    You have to think, Doom is a male who has been the master of his home for 7 years. He has all of a sudden been moved in with a much younger, larger male. He feels threatened by him.
    Everything is fine at the park because it is neutral ground, neither dog has 'ownership' of that piece of ground.

    Keep taking them to the park and other places they get along, make sure you praise them if they do anything together. Ask your friend if he would be willing to do some obedience with both dogs so that you can both reinforce the fact that you are the alphas and they don't need to compete with each other.

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    They are full males with all natural organs.

    Doom has never been attached to a home longer than 6 month as I keep moving every now and then.

    Bif does not seem territorial at all though..

    You are right about the size factor, Doom usually does that when approaching a larger size male.

    What do you mean more exactly by doing some obedience? Like teaching them some tricks? How? I haven't done that before...

    Thanks for your time.

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    Obedience is things like coming when called, teaching them to sit, stay, etc.
    They are tricks, but they are also very handy and increase the bond between owner and dog as well as establishing the owner as the alpha... the one in charge.
    By doing it with your friend and both dogs it should help show the dogs that you 2 are boss and might stop them squabbling between themselves and make them learn to do things together.

    I would suggest at the very least getting the 3 year old desexed.

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    They will tend to do what you let them do, you might need a little help from a good trainer to sort this out, you need to let them know you will not tolerate this aggression otherwise they will wind up sorting it out themselves.
    They will also do as they see fit when you are not there no matter what you insist on then, so watch that.

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    The thing is.. they both know how to sit, they are both obedient already. One more thing is the way I teach is not with rewards etc... I do it by being in the situation, giving the command and repeating it until the dog understands.

    Nick will not get Bif desexed, he thinks it's cruel, he says that his dog will look stupid without... I sort of agree. But didn't you say that desexing would not help anyway?

    I think there is no way out of this.. This same situation would never happen in the nature. I think Doom will keep growling no matter what.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Minibulls mum View Post
    They will tend to do what you let them do, you might need a little help from a good trainer to sort this out, you need to let them know you will not tolerate this aggression otherwise they will wind up sorting it out themselves.
    They will also do as they see fit when you are not there no matter what you insist on then, so watch that.
    Yes I could punish Doom everytimes he annoys me by giving him a tap on the butt.. However I won't do it in this situation regarding I don't want him to look stupid in front of Bif.. Though choice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipster View Post
    Yes I could punish Doom everytimes he annoys me by giving him a tap on the butt.. However I won't do it in this situation regarding I don't want him to look stupid in front of Bif.. Though choice..
    LMAO you dont want him to look stupid in front of bif?

    OMG PMSL

    \You acnt be for real

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    ... Or maybe I should just do it anyway... Bif will know what it is for..

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    It sounds like you and your friend have an old school way of thinking.

    It is his choice not to desex, I have an undesexed male here, but his reasons are ridiculous... he will look silly without testicles? No, your friend needs his dogs testicles so HE can feel more like a man.

    It is VERY possible it could help, removing the testicles lowers the hormone levels... testosterone makes the dogs want to fight each other, remove that, remove the urge. HOWEVER, the older the dog is the more it becomes HABIT rather than hormone related.
    Desexing also changed the scent of the dog, if one is desexed it will no longer smell like a male dog to the other one.

    The part Lala quoted about not wanting to punish him in front of the other dog... I really don't know what to say about that, can'y say I have ever heard anyone think like that.

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