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    It is not just because you are in a rural area, mates of mine had dogs dig out under a fence after months of being tormented by a dog left to roam in a suburban area in a big City, they killed the dog, it had been known in the area to have killed several pet cats, and and bitten children on bikes, it was a cattle dog, so was doing what cattle dogs do re the kids, nipping heels.

    Because nobody had reported it for the things it had done,it had no history with council, when my mates dogs finally dug under their fence and killed it,after months of it tormenting them through the fence a good block away from where it lived, and even though it was loose, my mates got fined,$1,600 and the dogs were both declared dangerous, there was no option offered.

    Even though this person is not a real farmer, it does not matter, you have been let off lightly.

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    Smile Dogs have home!!!!

    I know Mini Bulls Mum, I know, I said that in my 2nd post we have gotten off lightly. I have not been so emotionally or mentally exhuasted since we bought this house!!

    Now the nice family have rung and said they will have them in the morning. YIPPEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

    Best result EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you everyone!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minibulls mum View Post
    Lala,
    I don't think you quite get it, the authorities have bent over backwards to let this matter slide IF the dogs go, it is NOT up to the farmer to declare them anything it is up to the council, and possibly the police if they were involved not just the farmer, he can push it,(in QLD that would be at least $800 per dog for just attacking, it may be more by now) or let it go, he can demand his dead stock be paid for plus push for a fine, dogs killing stock is no joking matter, in days past in rural areas there were no second chances they got shot. End off.
    Kellie's post's do show a certain lack of understanding of laws and responsibility toward same, sorry Kellie I do not want to make you feel worse but those who want to make this farmer look bad do not have an understanding of just what is A: the actual law, and B: moral laws that just should apply here.
    Kellie,
    You seem to realise now that you must make that hard decision and indeed you must, do not hold it against your neighbour, he could have made it a darn sight worse for you.
    Perhaps I didn't word that correctly. I know the farmer doesn't "declare" them dangerous.....I meant about him pushing for it.

    Kerrick, glad you have found a home for your dogs so quickly. I hope it all goes well.

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    Good'oh Lala did not mean to sound picky or anything, I often shorten what I am writing too and then of course leave out information which sort of changes how others take what I say 8>)
    All the best Kerrie and do not worry about anyone stopping you from having another dog when the time comes, what has happened can only pertain to the dogs involved no other.

    Might be an idea to look for a breed known to have a lower prey drive though.

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    Double trouble, I've seen that before many times.
    Normally well behaved dogs get out and their behaviour changes. When there is more than one dog the whole dynamic changes and a pack mentality kicks in.
    It only takes 1 excited move and their natural prey drive kicks in and all sorts of things can go wrong.
    Sorry to hear about your loss.
    It would be like having to give the kids away.

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    I am so glad you found a nice family to take them on Kerrie that is great. I hope they are happy for you to keep in touch and make sure the dogs are settling in well. You have done the right thing in the situation by first trying for alternatives and then by re homing so they have a good life.

    Good luck with the next dog and as someone suggested maybe a dog with lower prey drive and maybe approach the farmer about having the new dog meet his stock during its socialization period also.
    But yes I would be chasing him up to help repair the fencing and get appropriate fencing!

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    The rule says - can't leave your dog tied up outside a shop or market or any public place anymore.

    Nanny state? Probably. But there is always a reason for those kinds of rules and so many people these days assume that a dog tied up and left alone outside a shop or at a dog club won't bite. I've been wrong. Clearly you intend for your dogs to repel thieves so I'm guessing they would bite too. And loads of little kids will just walk straight up to a dog to poke it in the eyes because they have no idea the difference between a dog and a toy. And yes that would partly be the parent's fault but it can happen very quickly if they have more than one kid going in different directions - and for some reason - putting kids on leads is frowned upon. So it's up to the dog owners to do the right thing.

    It's not beyond a bunch of feral teenagers to feed your dogs rat poison or snail bait, or even well meaning ignornant ones to chuck their left over roast chicken bones to your dogs. Do you really want to take that risk?

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    "As for the dogs being on the beach while we ski......all i have to say is AT LEAST WE TIE OURS UP!!!!!!!!! At our local water ways dogs wonder around all the time under no supervision, let alone leads. Our dogs are always VERY securely restrained and NEVER off their leshes. If you come to our camp you pass by all our things and then the dogs are there."

    Your stuff would still be stolen as it was all there they had to get through then there were the dogs.


    Not to mention the off lead dogs who may wish to come in and fight tethered ones.

    I am afraid that I can't understand the mindset of leaving tethered vulnerable dogs in a camp while the people are away but each to their own.
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    Got a text last night telling us that the girls had settled into their new family nicely. The man of the house has owned Shepherds all his life and is not phased by their history so it is all good!

    Thank you everyone for your comments and help.

    Now we have some fences to rebuild, a run/pen to build and some research to do on what to replace the girls with. It WILL only be one this time though!

    Thanks again everyone!
    Kerrie

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    I am glad they have had such a good outcome.

    The whole thing sounded incredibly stressful and I know when I moved onto my farm it was one of my nightmares about my dogs.

    You have to be so aware and have everything under lock and key when there are livestock around. They are an incredible magnet for certain types of dogs and I have 6 dogs to manage, my own sheep flock and my neigbours 10,000 sheep to be aware of. So it is doable.

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