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    Default Doggy Valium

    I didn't think I would ever consider using it, but I am! My dog is driving me nuts, I would love him to be a calm, friendly dog, but he's not & not sure if he ever will be. Iv pretty much been training him for the entire time iv had him, he seems to be getting worse.

    So, valium, Anybody use it? Has it improved your dogs behavior?

    Just for the record, I still don't want to use it & will continue training him, but I may need this as a last resort.

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    I've used sedatives for nights like NYE when there's fireworks and it will be distressing. I'm not sure about using it long term though. It's not really going to fix the problem, just blanket it. You'll end up paying a fortune in meds and doing him some serious liver/kidney and all sorts of other damage.

    What type of dog is he? How old etc? What training methods have you tried?

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    Thanks, iv tried training & lots of it. I'm just really frustrated & upset at the moment.

    I posted in the behavior section yesterday in more detail.

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    Have you tried seeing a behaviourist vet, there are some dogs that do live on meds to make their lives calmer. But self-medicating is quite dangerous.
    VAlium is actually addictive and you might have some isssue if you want to stop it. there are lots of other safer med for dogs
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    I would only consider valium for dog if there was a specific event that I didn't want her to freak out during eg plane flight. But I think I wouldn't use valium, I'd use something else. There is nothing worse than knowing there is a freak out event happening and being too dopey to do anything about it. So a dog given valium in this circumstance can actually get worse.

    If you're training and the behaviour is getting worse - I would consider very carefully what are you rewarding and punishing during your training. You've already mentioned corrections in the other thread - I'd drop those altogether. The only correction I would use with an anxious dog is the one where they don't get a treat when they don't do the required behaviour. And you have to set up training so it is easy peasy for the dog to get it right - so the dog learns quickly what is required and the dog gets lots of treats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I would only consider valium for dog if there was a specific event that I didn't want her to freak out during eg plane flight. But I think I wouldn't use valium, I'd use something else. There is nothing worse than knowing there is a freak out event happening and being too dopey to do anything about it. So a dog given valium in this circumstance can actually get worse.

    If you're training and the behaviour is getting worse - I would consider very carefully what are you rewarding and punishing during your training. You've already mentioned corrections in the other thread - I'd drop those altogether. The only correction I would use with an anxious dog is the one where they don't get a treat when they don't do the required behaviour. And you have to set up training so it is easy peasy for the dog to get it right - so the dog learns quickly what is required and the dog gets lots of treats.
    Well put, you are great with explanations.
    On a complete off Topic..... I have noticed how our newf rescue Lukey is just so easy to train with positive reinforcement and negative punishment. he gets it . He was terrible at jumping up and has now figured that the attention he so badly wants, does not get there that way. He hates it when we give him no attention. I love this way of training.......
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    Just in general, what kind of meds are available? I only mentioned Valium as iv only heard of this. I havnt really looked into meds because I really want to overcome his problems with training. When my sister mentioned Valium to me I thought it was a joke!

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    I would strongly recommend consulting a vet behaviorist. It may be that meds might be useful as an interim measure while you continue training, thus allowing you to break the behavior cycle.

    As a psychologist, I can say that in human therapy it is often very hard to get clients to take on new, more appropriate learning and strategies when they are overwhelmed by, say, anxiety. I believe this also applies to dogs and some other animals.

    So, by reducing the anxiety, you may then give your dog the 'brain space' to learn some new behaviors. Once this is cemented, the meds may no longer be needed.

    Personally, I don't know what meds are out there, but a vet behaviorist (the equivalent of a human psychiatrist (not psychologist!!)) will be able to advise you.

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    Hi, valium won't improve your dog's behavior, at least not in any long term sense. It will reduce their anxiety while its working. It can be useful for specific events like storms or trips to the vet. There are other drugs we use for these things too.

    For many dogs behavior therapy can resolve issues. In many cases using medication (more like prozac than valium) can help the dog overcome anxieties etc which interfere with learning new behavior. This is usually a medium term option, and the training is more important than the medication, though at times the medication can make all the difference, but only if the training is right.

    Plenty of dogs just need basic obedience training (but plenty of it and with consistency) and their behavior improves out of sight, but a behviorist can guide you on this.

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    Thanks, I think a huge change in routine has brought this unwanted behavior on. He seems to be improving with the training & also more socializing. I have done obedience training with him as well as private lessons to curb this behavior but will be enrolling him in the next level of obedience training as well.

    Basically I just wanted to learn more about meds but honestly it is the last thing I want to give him. I love him to death & will keep up the training.

    Most people I know would've dropped him off at the shelter by now, even my trainer & vet have commented on how much he's improved & pleased that I have sought training to help him rather than get rid of him.

    He has come a long way from the scared, anxious pup i brought home. Recently though he started trying to bite people & he was becoming worse with the training. Iv learnt he was just being stubborn & trying to test my patience.

    All seems to be going well & iv managed to crate train him too

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