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    Thats a pretty big what if IMO.

    The question can be applied to any breeder.

    CL, do you know for a fact she wasn't doing any health testing because I always thought she was quite vocal abotu the fact she did do health testing

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    I think that whenever backyard or cross breeding is mentioned the perception by those who are not registered ANKC breeders is that the BYB weather breeding pure or crosses is responsible for most of the dogs winding up in shelters, maybe they are for dogs bought from registered breeders form only a miniscule number when compared to pet dogs in the community, so naturally more pound dogs would not be registered or probably even pure bred.

    What the public is not generally aware of is that the ANKC registers thousands of dog each year to huge commercial kennels, many of these are shipped out to other countries, but thousands more do get sold on the domestic market, the bigger commercial kennels have their own markets in their chosen countries for the pups they export, few of these markets will take crossbred dogs.

    One larger broker exported over 30,000 yes, that was thirty thousand pups, in one year alone , some internet sleuth actually totalled up the puppies he had listed on an export list and posted it, these were the pups which had ANKC papers only, many he exports do not, he papers them through the pet registry so you would not see those listed in ANKC mags .

    The smaller kennels sell to several brokers, if you were members of an ANKC body you would see the same names on the export list time and again, sometimes buying one or pups from a litter sometimes the entire litter, yet the ANKC makes out all breeders are breeding only to better their breed.

    All ANKC breeders know this, like it or not, they know they are a part of the biggest mill going, now, knowing this do you pet owners out there still feel like drawing and quartering poor CD who is not well apparently and ought not to be targeted by those doing a spot of cyber bullying in the name of dog welfare, not hard for some to look over their backyard fence, they are standing so deep in their own poo it makes the top and easy reach 'eh.

    By the way I am both an ANKC member and have cross bred dogs and breed cross bred dogs, so report that if you please, you will be told it is none of your business nor any business of the ANKC, so making calls about whether or not someone is registered is just prying, nothing more or less.

    For those genuinely concerned about dog welfare new laws will soon come in in QLD that will stop most casual breeders, they will need to obtain a breeder number from Gvt. and will not be able to advertise in any Australian venue without one, they will also be held responsible for pups produced and all pups will be linked back to the mother, and of course the breeder. So no need to do a Foo over the fence and poke your nose into others back yards, it is all happening, just takes time.

    And why is not more made of the fact that many registered ANKC breeders do not test at all and for many breeds they are not required to do any? double standards is right, there is not one totally trouble free breed yet many need not be tested.

    Yep, hang that darn CD.

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    I dont believe all BYB are filling up the pounds however i would guess that there are more crossbreeds in the system than pedigree, a guess only.
    On the other hand most breeders will tell you that you should only buy from registered breeders as they are the only ones who have the breeds interest at heart, not money.
    Now Minibulls mum your telling us its ok to breed crossbred dogs and in fact your telling us you do it.
    You argument stems from its ok for others to do it why not me? Clearly you dont have the best interests at heart of the breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Thats a pretty big what if IMO.

    The question can be applied to any breeder.

    Sure can

    CL, do you know for a fact she wasn't doing any health testing because I always thought she was quite vocal abotu the fact she did do health testing
    The same person was always vocal about breeding with the best interests of the breed, clearly no longer the case, so whats thier word worth??

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    Not telling anyone anything Peter, Just do not like hipocrasy, this whole lets rat on, get, dissaprove of, CD call it what you will, but it feels like tittle tatting to me, sort of Finnigans Fink or undies sniffing cyber style, makes me sick, we need to clean up our own backyards before bothering about CD or other mum and dad type breeders.
    Raving on about puppy farms on one hand and backing the biggest one of all on the other. Yuck.
    CD's few litters look pretty small beside something like 30,000 ANKC pups in one year to one buyer alone, let's get real and if someone must be picked on start at the top and work on down, CD is waaaay down the list.

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    So as long as she's small its not wrong?

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    Don't think so Minibulls mum. If all the 'small' backyard breeders were added up where do you think the numbers would be? My guess would be in the very scary region!! Not acceptable!!

    Talk about double standards.

    My backyard is very clean actually and used by rescue dogs and adopted rescue's. It will never be used for breeding of any kind so I can quite comfortably focus on 'Mum and Dad type breeders' And what is their motive for breeding? The mighty dollar is my guess and do they give a crap where the puppies go? No is my guess as long as they get money in their pockets. That is what makes me sick!!

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    Trouble is there is a lot of unnacceptable breeding practices going across the board. The mum and dad breeders add up to quite a lot of the volume too, from my experience anything that isnt sold ends up in the pet shops, job done, puppies forgotten about, or dumped at the pound when expensive medical procedures are required. I have seen some truly shocking examples coming from these breeders and had friends caught with some really bad and expensive health and temperament problems. So whether it is ANKC or Mum and Dad these breeding practises are so wrong. It is exploitation.

    Hopefully the new laws will help. I actually dont care who breeds what, cross or pure as long as the parents are appropriately health tested, the breeder has a good knowledge of genetics and breeding practises, has a goal other than purely making money and the puppies are their responsibility so if things go wrong they take the pups back - no pup ends up in the pound or rescue and they make an effort to match the pups to good homes.

    Dogs and pups are disposable commodities, it is so wrong. There needs to be accountability across the board.

    CD seemed to be reasonably ethical with her descriptions, but who knows, it is the internet and we can be, or say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    Trouble is there is a lot of unnacceptable breeding practices going across the board. The mum and dad breeders add up to quite a lot of the volume too, from my experience anything that isnt sold ends up in the pet shops, job done, puppies forgotten about, or dumped at the pound when expensive medical procedures are required. I have seen some truly shocking examples coming from these breeders and had friends caught with some really bad and expensive health and temperament problems. So whether it is ANKC or Mum and Dad these breeding practises are so wrong. It is exploitation.

    Hopefully the new laws will help. I actually dont care who breeds what, cross or pure as long as the parents are appropriately health tested, the breeder has a good knowledge of genetics and breeding practises, has a goal other than purely making money and the puppies are their responsibility so if things go wrong they take the pups back - no pup ends up in the pound or rescue and they make an effort to match the pups to good homes.

    Dogs and pups are disposable commodities, it is so wrong. There needs to be accountability across the board.

    CD seemed to be reasonably ethical with her descriptions, but who knows, it is the internet and we can be, or say anything.
    Excellent post!! Kinda some of what I was trying to say but you are far more eloquent than I will ever be.

    Good job

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    Yes good post KC, I do not think pups ought to be bred without care either and do have input into considerations which will be part of the forming of new laws, maybe I will be influential and maybe I will be ignored, but if anyone does not like indescriminate breeding now is the time to take apropriate action in QLD at least, contact relevant people and authorities re this.

    Picking on an unwell and enthusiastic person is in no way going to help even one dog, let alone influence upcoming laws.

    Change will come from good laws and concern properly shown by all interested parties and properly expressed in the right areas, not from attacks on individuals.

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