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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Was teetering on the fence on this one until you mentioned she'd done it for " the biggest head she'd ever seen" . Can I asj was she breeding/hoping on colour as well ?

    The only reason I'd stay on the fence is that line breeding can be very beneficial if done correctly and with great care,research,expereience and forethought. I have done it whilst breeding horses but the filly produced from such a tight mating was the out bred to same lines different strain. ie twice removed. I could of ended up with still a pretty ordinaray result but either way I was pretty confident I would end up with at least a 'healthy' result.

    As it stands , there are so many dodgy 'Registered' breeders out there its becoming a worry for new time puppy breeders who are trying to do the right thing and still being stung and sub standard dogs with multiple health/genetic/behavior issues being flushed through main stream gene pools.
    I agree that it has it's place but I would not do it myself any closer than 1 matching grandparent on pedigree. Any closer I am quiet against these days but have gone closer in the past myself.
    But these days we really have enough bloodlines to get what we want without breeding too close in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    I agree that it has it's place but I would not do it myself any closer than 1 matching grandparent on pedigree. Any closer I am quiet against these days but have gone closer in the past myself.
    But these days we really have enough bloodlines to get what we want without breeding too close in my opinion.
    I also agree Crazy ")

    Except that there a 'few' strains of certain breeds that certainly need nursing back to health
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Yep that would be wonderful Ellie but how do you police/regulate something like that? But its not illegal so how do we police it?

    My hope would of been that the "registered ' breeders out there perhaps set a good example
    I truly do not know the answer. Tighter regulations would be good start, and I think education as well. However, the problem seems insurmountable.

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    oh ok, i was under the impression that inbreeding was closer breeding more like father x daughter, mother x son, brother x sister kind of thing and line breeding was breeding within the same family tree just not such close relations??

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    I have found the breeder you are speaking of. Grrr her website makes me mad.

    Breeding speficially for solid blue! She is also charging $3000 for females from a certain Dam. And $2000 for all the others. But also charging less for males...?

    ETA - I think I know one of her pups through my Obedience school also.
    Last edited by Keira & Phoenix; 02-17-2011 at 03:18 PM.

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    yes and that certain dam was the one bred back to her father!!!! originally i was going to get a pup from that damm, but then she told me she was inbreeding, so i bolted and found a new breeder!

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    she must have dropped her prices then cause she must be stuck with too many pups that no one wants!
    originally from that bitch it was $3000 for females & $2500 for males
    pieds were the same price and solid blues were cheaper at $2500 for females & $1800 for males.
    the dogs listed on her website are only about a quarter of her dogs she breeds from and owns >

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I have found the breeder you are speaking of. Grrr her website makes me mad.

    Breeding speficially for solid blue! She is also charging $3000 for females from a certain Dam. And $2000 for all the others. But also charging less for males...?

    ETA - I think I know one of her pups through my Obedience school also.



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    K&P can you please PM the link , thanking you kindly ( yes am time pressed - ok - just lazy and had enough of google )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellie View Post
    I truly do not know the answer. Tighter regulations would be good start, and I think education as well. However, the problem seems insurmountable.
    It does seem that way but if we all feel that way then we'll never get anywhere with anything we are trying to achieve.

    As you say , step 1 of course is Education. Can never have enough of it as far as I'm concerned.
    But then we have the age old problem of reaching the general masses. The general population of middle class families out there are not aware of the amount of shelter dogs,are not aware of the horrors of puppy farming/peddlars,not aware of the potential health risks ( and backgrounds) of Pet Shop pups.
    We need to get the message out there....


    My concern is , those that we just might be reaching are still on the path to those less then ethical/reputable 'registered' breeders who are no better than what we are trying to steer them clear of.

    IMO ,its the the recognised canine councils duty to ensure all of its members are doing the right thing or expel them from the councils,simple.We need to show the general public that those perceived as doing the right thing are in fact doing just that.
    The right thing.


    *bunkers down *

    note- and NO-I am not breeder bashing
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