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Thread: Lost Dogs... Did I Do the Right Thing?

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    Default Lost Dogs... Did I Do the Right Thing?

    This is more a Vent than anything
    This morning 2 gorgeous dogs appearred on my door step a cute Whippet mix pup (about 6 months old I think) and a Golden Retriever.
    The pup was coverred in ticks, I am STILL picking them off myself.
    The goldy was covered in fresh black river Mud and algeam so i gave it a quick wash dry and groom so I could check for any serious injuries. There was nothing immediate but she was really in pain in her hips and after her wash I found a greying muzzle. This lady was clearly an oldy.

    my OH and I loaded both into the car at 9am straight to the vet to check for microchip and a quick suggestion on her hips.
    No microchip for either dogs and the vet nurse agreed straight away that the dog was in pain and needed a number of shots to help relieve her pain, but they couldn't do it for us as they needed owner permission or we had to pay.
    Unfortunately we are really tight this week and the Vet wasn't willing to do an account for us. So we rang the ranger to take them to give the Goldy the medical attention she needed.
    Now all this I have no problems with I did the best I could but...

    While waiting for the Ranger the dogs' owner turned up. He took the dogs, made the old dog jump up into his 4 wheel drive and informed me that she had been having clear problems with her back end for quite a while.
    I told him the vet had recommended medical attetion and he seemed to shrug it off.

    Legally I have to give his dogs back and give him the chance to get the dog to the vet but I don't believe he will take her to the vet. Should I have held onto the dog till the ranger? If i see the goldy again still in pain I WILL be reporting him.
    Is it wrong I feel so bad for finding a Lost dog's real home?

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    How sad, but nothing else you could have done, you really cannot hold onto somebody else's dogs

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    How do you know this was the dogs' owner?

    In this situation - given the animals are not microchipped and not well looked after I would not surrender them to anyone but the ranger who can verify ownership, and make sure the dogs are registered properly as a start. And I'd take car licence plate, and report "owner" to RSPCA.

    I'd also phone the RSCPA to discuss what options you would normally have when this happens.

    If you find the same dogs again - I would not have them where they could be seen by the owner from the road or whatever. And I'd be handing them to the Ranger and only the ranger.

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    Hyacinth: I will most definately be handing them to the ranger if they appear here again. Especially if nothing has been done about the old dogs pain.
    The owner saw the dogs out the front of the Vet and asked for his dogs back and the dogs were happy to see him. I am sure they were his dogs.

    Sadly 9.9/10 of the dogs in my area aren't microchipped and 8/10 aren't registerred with the shire. And no one wants to pay the fines to get thier dog back.

    My partner says he remembers the car rego, so when he gets home from work i think I might ring the ranger with the details and ask them to check up on the dogs if they can.

    I just can't believe someone thinks it OK for a dog to be in pain let alone make thier dog jump in such a high vehicel after being told that his dog definately has pain in it's back legs...
    Poor things... And I can't seem to stop blaming myself for letting him have them back

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    Do you know for a fact that the owner isnt going to seek treatment?

    Just because he seemed blase doesnt mean he isnt taking it seriously...

    My dog occasionally has issues with his rear end but he still jumps up on the furniture and into the back of the truck. I couldnt stop him even if I wanted to....

    I think you did the right thing and agree with other posts, if there is a next time, hand them over to the ranger if it appears that he hasnt sought treatment for the goldy. If it appears he has, then I would give them back to him. In saying that, maybe the goldy is already on treatment and it's just not working that well.

    Ya have to give the guy some credit, he must have gone out looking for them to have found them.

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    First off you right I am not 100% sure he wont seek medical treatment, I also understand he was looking for these dogs and I do give him creditare . I hope he does take the dog to vet, but I can't help but wonder why he has not done so already.

    As for the jumping in the car this girl didn't want to walk more than a few meters with out a rest, I felt cruel asking her to walk to the car to get her to the vet. I even helped her in and out of the car(I was rewarded with a HUGE thank you kiss lol) She would just lay down as soon as I stopped walking for more than a second.

    I know Techically I did the right thing, And he means no intesional harm to these dogs, I just can't stand any animal in that state wether it be accidental or not.
    While I have calmed down alot since this morning, I hope i see the dog in town walking with no pain next week. Put me at ease a bit more about the whole thing

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    Hi DragOnCharm

    I wouldn't beat yourself up about this, most people would not have taken these dogs to the vet.

    And I had a very old horse who had arthritus and various joint problems, he was a pretty happy horse anyway. I asked the vet what I could do for a specific foot injury and he recommended a dose of horse painkiller (bute), which I gave the horse. Who then spent the next 24 hours running around his paddock like a spring foal instead of resting up like he was supposed to. So I didn't give him any more bute. I felt worse about how he behaved with the pain killer than without.

    My dog - is young and healthy, and is perfectly capable of jumping in 4WD without help from me but mostly she flat refuses. The closest she gets is standing with her front paws on the seat and her back paws on the ground, so I get to lift her back end into the car. Most times I have to pick her up entirely and shove her in. Which I've done since she was a small - lifted her in and out of my hefalump car. And probably saved the dog a few injuries and long term joint damage. Not really sure what it's doing to me but doctors say weight bearing exercise is good for the skeleton to prevent or delay osteoarthritus.

    It's not much of a choice for a dog, PTS or inadequate care by an owner who doesn't know any better.

    Maybe you could try educating the owner? Send him some info on doggy arthritus treatment or some Sasha's blend for the old dog and some tick pills for the puppy? Via the council or your local policeman (who could look up his address and pass them on for you). Or you could offer to help the RSPCA out with these things. The GR being old isn't likely to find another home if the RSPCA takes it away from its owner unfortunately.

    Sometimes life sucks and there isn't a whole lot we can do about it. You've done your best at this point in time and can only hope you get a second go at it. Maybe - the owner will have a bit of a think and change his attitude. Sometimes a person won't when you're in their face, but when they've had a think about it and they know you're not looking - so it feels like their own decision, they may do the right thing.

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    Thanks Hyacinth, your right on all fronts.
    I might try to catch the owner in town and just ask after the dogs. I will mention my concerns politely a few times if the dogs show no improvement I will definately call in the ranger or RSPCA.
    I hope that with the owner knowing his dog been in a Vet clinic and has been told it needs medication he will have her in there tomorrow.
    As for the Whippet cross pup, I almost offerred to buy it off him lol it was absolutely adorable amd beautifully natured. will be a great family dog. I think it was cross jack russel or heeler mix.

    At the end of the day I know I did what I could when they were in my care.
    thanks all for listening and all the advice. Helped me feel alot better today

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    You did the right thing because as much as she may have been in pain, the dogs are legally his. If you chose to keep them, police would get involved (if the owner calls them) and you don't have a leg to stand on. In terms of dogs with arthritis/joint problems, not giving them expensive treatment isn't animal cruelty either. Yes, he's not done the right thing by not having microchips and letting the dogs escape, but microchipping isn't law either and accidents happen. The dog's joint problems could have even been worse than usual from running around the suburb when they escaped. So in this situation, you did all that you could.

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    In terms of dogs with arthritis/joint problems, not giving them expensive treatment isn't animal cruelty either.
    wrong. At least in NSW you're wrong and the legislation on animal welfare and prevention of cruelty is similar across Australia...

    This is from the NSW act
    NSW Legislation
    5 Cruelty to animals

    (1) A person shall not commit an act of cruelty upon an animal.
    (2) A person in charge of an animal shall not authorise the commission of an act of cruelty upon the animal.
    (3) A person in charge of an animal shall not fail at any time:
    (a) to exercise reasonable care, control or supervision of an animal to prevent the commission of an act of cruelty upon the animal,
    (b) where pain is being inflicted upon the animal, to take such reasonable steps as are necessary to alleviate the pain, or
    (c) where it is necessary for the animal to be provided with veterinary treatment, whether or not over a period of time, to provide it with that treatment.

    Maximum penalty: 250 penalty units in the case of a corporation and 50 penalty units or imprisonment for 6 months, or both, in the case of an individual.

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