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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Proof of Cops getting it wrong -

    Victoria a couple years ago, cops shot a teenager who was only armed with a knife multiple times, he died. Why was the tazer not used in that situation also?

    Cops do get it wrong and often times they do things to spite people. I have not yet met a Coppa who I would be friends with.
    Vic police don't use tazers, they use capsicum spray which, if a kid with the knife is coming at them, won't really work. They need to use the spray before the person comes at them and sometimes the spray still won't work.
    Having police in the family and being married to an armed officer, I know that if a police officer's life is at threat and being charged at with a deadly weapon, they are trained to shoot. A knife is a deadly weapon.

    As far as the video goes, I can't see a dog in a crate, I didn't hear shots fired after they had entered and cuffed the man, and they didn't shoot the corgi.. the officer even said.. leave the dog it's fine.
    The comments about what happened are all hearsay and I honestly can't see anything wrong with how the police handled the situation.. in fact, the way they allowed the child's mother to sit with him rather than cuffing her also, is quite impressive... usually they will cuff all of the adults in the house.

    The only reason why you assume he wasn't a dealer, is because that's what he claimed and that's what was written it doesn't make it fact though. The police would have had him under surveillance long before the arrest and they don't waist precious resources to arrest an occasional pot smoker in his home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    Vic police don't use tazers, they use capsicum spray which, if a kid with the knife is coming at them, won't really work. They need to use the spray before the person comes at them and sometimes the spray still won't work.
    Having police in the family and being married to an armed officer, I know that if a police officer's life is at threat and being charged at with a deadly weapon, they are trained to shoot. A knife is a deadly weapon.

    As far as the video goes, I can't see a dog in a crate, I didn't hear shots fired after they had entered and cuffed the man, and they didn't shoot the corgi.. the officer even said.. leave the dog it's fine.
    The comments about what happened are all hearsay and I honestly can't see anything wrong with how the police handled the situation.. in fact, the way they allowed the child's mother to sit with him rather than cuffing her also, is quite impressive... usually they will cuff all of the adults in the house.

    The only reason why you assume he wasn't a dealer, is because that's what he claimed and that's what was written it doesn't make it fact though. The police would have had him under surveillance long before the arrest and they don't waist precious resources to arrest an occasional pot smoker in his home.
    The corgi is first shot & the second dog is not shot untill the guy is cuffed on the ground. Tell me how they could not but a sheild in front of them & get someone to grab the corgi & it sounded more scared than anything. Why did they not shoot it again straight away also instead of letting it yelp so long.
    I have looked into it & the police attmitt to shooting the second dog in it's crate as they said they where in fear of it escaping in a public statement.
    As for the drug dealer bit it really is not relevent because whether a drug dealer or the best person around your rights to feel safe in your own home should be the same. And if he was a drug dealer so what is the dog gulity of. I do beleive they got it wrong though as they did not find anything to point towards him being a dealer.
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    I still can't get over it that people think that corgi wouldnt attack anyone..
    I thought we were all smart and know that any breed of dog can attack.

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    Also when they do raids the police don't know what they are walking into.

    Yes two dogs died cos it's their owner was a drug dealer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Yeh i dont know what brought our own police force into this other than kiera's comments but........
    OMG if our police pandered to anymore reforms they'd be handing out flowers instead of tickets. Surely your not serious???
    Have you ever considered the sh*t these people have to put up with everyday or as you like to read it "doing thier job", "serving the community".
    One would wonder why anybody would want to do it, its a thankless job and you put up with the lowest of the low.
    I wonder why anyone would do a fairly miminal wage job which puts your life on the line also & think you'd have to be a cetain type of person to want to do it.
    As for reform I think Police should be far better educated & therefore payed better also. If we made the HSC a requirement to gain entry to the accadmy we'd get a far better quality of recruits to start with. I think the time at the accadmy should be longer & cover alot more in general & stuff like how to deal with mental health pataince among other things. They should do more practical work exsperaince on the street also before becoming fully qualified low ranking police constable. Because of the extra educational requirements they should also get a much need signifacant pay rise. I feel this will attract a better quality of people into wanting to become police & that has to be a good thing.
    Also the pratice of shipping problem coppers off to rural stations has to be stopped as we are getting 1 reject after another & atm we have more street crime than some lot bigger towns. I know our police have to cover a very large area but waiting 2hrs after you ring to say there is a brawl across the street with knifes involved & they are now loading(overloading) kids into the car & are all drunk is just not right.
    I am very surpriced by you & puggerups responces to a clip & information I spent 48hrs looking into before I even posted the clip. I did not start by slagging off the police in anyway just that it had struck a cord with me due to my own exsperaince. My house mates dog was shot in his own yard by police who where chasing some guy through the backyards of the street I was living in at Tamworth. The dog did chase them but that was his job to protect our backyard.
    I am not totally against police in anyway or I would not be all for getting them better educated & therefore better payed. Police do make mistakes because they are human & it's human to err & thats all I was really saying & that it was a terrible thing for a child to have to witness.
    I really did not think it would cause such a stir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Of course their is some good cops but I have to say I am seeing more & more cases of them missusing their authority & of not having great values in general. I think our Police Service is another fine example of needing reform.
    Really?? Can you be anymore general?

    I for one have a great deal of respect for our Police force. It's certainly something I don't have the balls to do. Bloody hard workers and all the media reports are the negatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    Also when they do raids the police don't know what they are walking into.

    Yes two dogs died cos it's their owner was a drug dealer..
    That is just crazy to say it's ok because they thought he was a drug dealer.
    By the way their was NO chargers layed resulting from the raid & they guy had no priors for drug dealer.
    I really find it hard to understand why you guys think it's ok because they where police.
    Police are only human not some super natural beings so why is it so hard to say they may have made a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    I still can't get over it that people think that corgi wouldnt attack anyone..
    I thought we were all smart and know that any breed of dog can attack.
    Of course any breed can attack & actully corgi's are tuff little buggers & I knew 2 who used to go pigging. But a corgi coming at you is no where near as intimadating as a pitty is all I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Of course any breed can attack & actully corgi's are tuff little buggers & I knew 2 who used to go pigging. But a corgi coming at you is no where near as intimadating as a pitty is all I mean.
    Not really.. You have basiclly said that a corgi wouldn't attack anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJames View Post
    Really?? Can you be anymore general?

    I for one have a great deal of respect for our Police force. It's certainly something I don't have the balls to do. Bloody hard workers and all the media reports are the negatives.
    I am not out to point fingers but if you want I will start quoting individual cases against police for different offences.
    Have you not read what my idea of reform for our Police is? I am only saying if we better educate & pay them better we will get better policing in return. I think they are underpayed but at the same time no one forced them to join either.
    I did not put the clip up just to have ago at police & it was overseas anyway so I really did not think of people getting this heated over police making a mistake.
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