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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    For a staart in australia that don't have a saleyards that just sell horses for meat..
    I know of more than 1 & several private abaitors just for petmeat using doggers & downed cattle.
    Yes it is a poor man sport but you will be suprised on how many ppl work behind the seasons.
    Greyhound racing really is dying off from everything I can gather, so there will be less & less people.
    I used to love the trotts but after retraining standerbreds have rethough that industry also. Really any industry using animals for income generally the animals lose out as everything come down to making a profit.
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    Is dog racing & all it involves good or bad?.......I really don't know.

    My main concern is what happens to the dogs that don't perform.

    Rescue groups are doing what they can, but why do so few end up at the pound for re-homing?

    Why is it I rarley see these racing rejects up for sale, just like any other dog breed?

    Honestly, they can be such beautifull & gentle pets. Once their racing days are over, then they should be given the same opportunities as any other dog, cat or whatever.

    Where do they go & What is their fate?
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    Well Chips sad to say many are shot or worse hit over the head with a tire iron as a bullet is seen as too exspensive. Some just spend their life in cramped over crowed runs with other retirees. Some are used to breed more greyhounds for racing. Untill greyhound rescues started up it was very very uncomman to see greyhounds away from the racing intustries ever.
    Many people are still of the beleive that greyhounds are small animal killers unfit for pets which is crazy. I have seen many fit well into a pet situation.
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    RSPCA link

    What is the RSPCA position on greyhound racing? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

    It has an L on the end.

    I'm just concerned that if they ban greyhound racing that lure coursing or equestrian eventing will be next. And then agility and obedience. There are people who have horrifying training methods in all these. Most of these methods were fine 30 or 40 years ago and reward based training was/is considered radical. Ie in my life time these attitudes have changed. Even my dog club still uses the slip chains for training.

    PS if you really want the council's attention, email them and the councillors directly. Don't bother with a petition, make little flyers and hand out the contact details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    RSPCA link

    What is the RSPCA position on greyhound racing? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

    It has an L on the end.

    I'm just concerned that if they ban greyhound racing that lure coursing or equestrian eventing will be next. And then agility and obedience. There are people who have horrifying training methods in all these. Most of these methods were fine 30 or 40 years ago and reward based training was/is considered radical. Ie in my life time these attitudes have changed. Even my dog club still uses the slip chains for training.
    Perhaps, but I don't think the scale of things like agility and obedience are on the same scale as horse and dog racing. The gambling part of it has effects way beyond the animals involved. Also, where gambling is involved, the lobby groups and vested interests are far stronger and more powerful than any that are involved in other dog and horse competitions - that makes them far easier to regulate.

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    Hyacinth,
    I think as long as it's purely for sport not a buisness situation many animal sports that many think are bad are fine it seems to be when money becomes the main objective is when the animals of the 'sport' start missing out.
    I also worry about all dog & horse sports being veiwed badly but I think it comes down to educating the public on the differences. But I must say last pony club day I want to to have a look at was shoking for poor horse welfare & talk about yank & slap happy.
    Yes our local obedaince club still use chook chains also, which I am not dead against(chook chains) but I think they are better alturnitives available that would work better on your average dog turning up at these clubs.
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    I'm going to fairly well sit on my hands for this one.....

    But just wanted to say that those dogs that get a bullet or other form of 'humane' euthanasia , IMO is better than those that end up in cold lonely cages waiting for a home that in 90 percent of cases for a greyhound just doesn't come.
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    A check chain can be a great training aide in the right hands. When Annabelle was so very aggressive, when we first got her, I could not have done with out one, She was 55kg of angry dog. But the secret is check/pop never choke. And only for training. And we still used positive reinforcements. But at first she would not eat anything that came from a hand. That limits training on a aggressive dog.

    That goes for all training implements, the snaffle bit can be one of the cruelest bits in the wrong hands, but the kindest in the right hands.

    As for agility.........Any RSPCA person would only have to attend one event to see how happy dogs are who do that. On average agility is really enjoyed by the dogs.

    I think it is when money comes into it, that is when the animal is forgotten. there are not too many people who have gotten wealthy from agility competitions
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    But just wanted to say that those dogs that get a bullet or other form of 'humane' euthanasia , IMO is better than those that end up in cold lonely cages waiting for a home that in 90 percent of cases for a greyhound just doesn't come.
    Very true also. I am fostering a greyhound at the moment, and I'm very conflicted about the whole thing. To this guy, it's making a world of difference, but is me taking him just creating another spot in the kennel for a greyhound that's going to wait for a fosterer and then forever home? Clearly it is.

    I don't even know how to think about the situation - foster groups do great work, but .. it does make me wonder. I'm always of the opinion that you should do whatever you can, whenever you can. My little part, in this instance, is fostering Snow (who I had called Helmut). It's a drop in the ocean, and the right thing for him, but not necessarily for the bigger picture. Sigh, I just don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Very true also. I am fostering a greyhound at the moment, and I'm very conflicted about the whole thing. To this guy, it's making a world of difference, but is me taking him just creating another spot in the kennel for a greyhound that's going to wait for a fosterer and then forever home? Clearly it is.

    I don't even know how to think about the situation - foster groups do great work, but .. it does make me wonder. I'm always of the opinion that you should do whatever you can, whenever you can. My little part, in this instance, is fostering Snow (who I had called Helmut). It's a drop in the ocean, and the right thing for him, but not necessarily for the bigger picture. Sigh, I just don't know.
    I see your point and is a valid one.
    I am met with the drop in the ocean analogy everyday re BSL and our breed. But as they say,the smallest ripple will create a further.....

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