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    Way better with words than I am.

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    Well their isn't one in WA.

    It's the same with every industry.. Good and bad people.. Like the dog breeders..

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    Interesting that they're closing horse race tracks due to unprofitability (e.g. Cheltenham) and opening new greyhound race tracks. I feel sorry for any animal involved in racing that is treated badly and generally doesn't enjoy what they're made to do. That's the clear different to me between things like agility, obedience, shows, etc. I'm sure that some dogs (and horses) enjoy the actual racing, but most would be forced into it and physically punished to perform. A study recently came out that said that whipping a horse while racing doesn't make them go any faster if they're already tired.

    Honestly I thought society had mostly outgrown this industry (aside from the Melbourne Cup of course but that's hardly about the actual horse racing anymore).

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    Quote Originally Posted by molly33 View Post
    That figure has been thrown around for years.
    I have heard stories from people involved in rescue and the industry and seen signs of cruelty.
    I went to my first race last year out of curiosity, I was disgusted. We went into the area where they go to be vet checked after the race. The line was long.Walked out.
    I have vet nurse friends who have worked in vet clinics where they PTS greyhounds every day and have left.
    Racing in the states has been banned in all but 7 states.

    Here is a link..GRAPHIC PICS.
    Against Animal Cruetly Tasmania (AACT) - The Plight of Australian Greyhounds
    I've read the 20,000 figure too, around various places - one source here.

    As an aside, I don't think the number of jobs created by a new greyhound racing track can even come close to competing with the devastating impact that problem gambling has on people. It disproportionately affects lower socio-economic sectors of society, and encouraging and facilitating gambling of any sort is irresponsible and not something that I can ever agree with. For god's sake, build any other kind of business there and create employment, if that's the issue. That's a tiny, tiny "benefit", it doesn't justify the track at all, in my eyes.

    Re: regulation
    I also agree that regulation, better regulation, is required. This doesn't even have to be an abolish/outlaw greyhound racing or not - better regulation is better than nothing. But god, regulate better before you expand the problem. It's harder to bring anything into check when you're encouraging it to continue at the same time!

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    They are closing alot of country race tracks but you would be suprise on how people try and save them. It's not because they like to bet or they are trainers. It's becuase that event brings money into that community. Eg Kulin Bush Races in WA. They are bush races and they get about 2000 ppl that will attend them. Kulin is about 250kms south east from Perth.

    Whatever Im going to say isn't going to change ppls minds about it.

    If its that bad.. Why doesnt RSCPA do a complain about it?

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    I am from a family involved in race horse industry in several ways & I have to say it's horrific what TB have to injure in the name of sport.
    Do you know the sastisitcs of gut ulcers in race horses & windsucking both caused by being looked in stable yards with nothing to graize on & nothing to keep them mentaly stimulated. Do you know the % of 2yr olds that go straight from breaker to dogger.
    Race horse industry is curupt & all about the almight dollar.
    I used to live in Londenderry western Sydney surrounded by greyhound breeder/trainers & it was very eye opening. If anything the greyhound has it worse than the TB.
    I am not sure what can be done about any of it & don't know enough to form a genuine opition but I do know about the TB industry & it stinks in more ways than 1.
    I just want to add this post will most likely cost me dearly but as usual I have to voice my opitions even if I get shoot in the foot for it.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    They are closing alot of country race tracks but you would be suprise on how people try and save them. It's not because they like to bet or they are trainers. It's becuase that event brings money into that community. Eg Kulin Bush Races in WA. They are bush races and they get about 2000 ppl that will attend them. Kulin is about 250kms south east from Perth.

    Whatever Im going to say isn't going to change ppls minds about it.

    If its that bad.. Why doesnt RSCPA do a complain about it?


    http://kb.rspca.org.au/What-is-the-R...racing_242.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    I am from a family involved in race horse industry in several ways & I have to say it's horrific what TB have to injure in the name of sport.
    Do you know the sastisitcs of gut ulcers in race horses & windsucking both caused by being looked in stable yards with nothing to graize on & nothing to keep them mentaly stimulated. Do you know the % of 2yr olds that go straight from breaker to dogger.
    Race horse industry is curupt & all about the almight dollar.
    I used to live in Londenderry western Sydney surrounded by greyhound breeder/trainers & it was very eye opening. If anything the greyhound has it worse than the TB.
    I am not sure what can be done about any of it & don't know enough to form a genuine opition but I do know about the TB industry & it stinks in more ways than 1.
    I just want to add this post will most likely cost me dearly but as usual I have to voice my opitions even if I get shoot in the foot for it.
    I don't think anybody should ever be shot in the foot for posting their opinions - especially if they're informed or considered. I think it's really important to be able to have these kind of exchanges respectfully - it's not even about changing peoples' minds, but making each other think. Some of the things in this thread have made me consider things that I hadn't before. Not enough to change my mind completely, but I now have a broader understanding of the subject. I hope I never become the kind of person that's so inflexible and fixed in my beliefs and ways that I can't consider other peoples' opinions and information from 'the other side' of the debate.

    If you're shut down for voicing an opinion, it says more about the person shutting you down, than it does about you.

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    Oh I didn't mean by the forum more my own family, lol.
    My sister reads thid forum so it will get back to the family what I have said.
    I just meant it's important enough for me to stand uo for really.
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