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    peter, woudl you say the same thing if he was belting a child or his wife?

    I think not.

    Until animals are given voices instead of teeth, then someone needs to act on their behalf.

    But you are right, it does have nothing to do with me.

    Why then do you have "whistle blower" under your name, if "speaking up" is not something that you agree with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkest View Post
    peter, woudl you say the same thing if he was belting a child or his wife?

    I think not.

    Until animals are given voices instead of teeth, then someone needs to act on their behalf.

    But you are right, it does have nothing to do with me.

    Why then do you have "whistle blower" under your name, if "speaking up" is not something that you agree with?

    Lol, i have whilsteblower there because i drive trains for a living.

    And again me personally, unless it was a regular occurence no i wouldnt get involved regardless who it was.
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    My neighbour has screaming monkey dogs... Everytime she goes to work the dogs act like screaming monkeys.

    They do it every day... Am I going to ring RSCPA about it? Umm no..
    They only do it for 10mins.

    Only problem I have is that it sets off my dogs..

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    I have an issue with a neighbour too.

    They got a pup for Christmas and just left it in the backyard, they made no effort to train it but it did get walked twice and it never had its parvo vaccine.
    The dog developed diarrhoea on a 35 degree day (the concrete it was kept on would have easily been 45 degrees) and the next day it still had diarrhoea and they didn't seek veterinary care despite my efforts to convince them how urgent the matter was, on day 3 of the dogs illness the temp reached 40 degrees and the dog died.
    The way I see it they killed the dog through neglect, if it were a baby anyone would be seriously concerned if diarrhoea persisted any more than 1 day and a pup in the hot sun would be even more vulnerable in my view.
    I'm tempted to call the RSPCA but I don't know if it would achieve anything, they got rid of the dogs body so there is not really any evidence.
    I've lost all respect for these people and I won't be doing them any more favours.

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    Oh Bundy, that's awful.

    How can we not get involved? But what do you do - there is no "stupid dog owner" hotline - just the RSPCA for each state. That is cruelty at it's purest form.

    You're right, for a human baby to go through this, the parents would face prosecution and jail. For a doglet baby it's "don't get involved, just butt out". No, that is NOT right.

    The people who care are the ones who carry around the guilt over a creature that they can not help. It's crippling and until society starts placing a geater value on animal lives, it's not going to change.

    <hugs to you>

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    Pinkest.... I'm glad you care. I'm glad you are willing to see that each and every one of us has responsibility to fellow creatures. I'm glad you have the concern to even consider getting involved. I am ashamed at society's general abrogation of all responsibility for everything from what food to eat, to caring for pets.

    I agree with others here who have advised wait, bide your time and collect evidence. If such evidence never arises, you can be confident that cruelty as defined by law or RSPCA is not occurring. If you get the evidence, well and good. I also strongly agree with furnishing your neighbors with basic reading material, either via their letterbox, or personally if you feel safe to do so.

    What ever happens, your willingness not to turn a blind eye will make change and even if only small change it is change for the better.

    For those of you who would 'turn a blind eye' unless it was glaringly, blatantly, viciously obvious.... May I remind or recommend to you the famous story of Kitty Genovese....
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    I was not saying to ignore or turn a blind eye to anything I just think you need more than just hearing a dog being screamed at to take it to the RSPCA & to make sure you had ALL the facts first.
    I have had numurous dealings with the RSPCA & have to say without better evidence or at least someone else to back your story up they would tell you theres nothing they could do.
    As for Bundy's story that is reportable but again not much will come of it unless the owners are dumb enough to admitt they knew the dog was very sick but did not get it a vet. Otherwise most will just say but we didn't know the pup was sick & it just suddenly died, without a body there really is not anything the RSPCA could do.
    I am afraid the RSPCA is too busy with horrendous cases of crulity, publisity, raising funds & looking after the dogs in their shelters to be able to visit every cruelity case they are advised of. They have to take a worse case first type approach to cruelity report phone calls.
    Why I susjested the op get evideince is because a ph report that the caller informs them that they have the person of interest on tape(voice or film) is alot more likely to get looked into.
    Dogs make everyday life enjoyable...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    I was not saying to ignore or turn a blind eye to anything I just think you need more than just hearing a dog being screamed at to take it to the RSPCA & to make sure you had ALL the facts first ......into.
    CD, was not referring to you :-) if I recall correctly, you've said all along to wait and gather facts.... Not turn a blind eye.

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    My son is getting involved in a situation. He is in one of 3 flats in a row with a narrow communal graveled back yard.
    About a week ago someone moved into the front flat with 3 dogs.
    These dogs are locked in the flat all day and out the back all night.
    At first they came up growling to him when going out his own back door but are friendly now. They bark a lot at night.
    Last night there was torrential rain. No cover at all in the yard and they were scrabbling at his screen door to be let in out of it. He let them in the laundry.
    When putting them out again at 3am he found that they had eaten a plastic bag of birdseed that he had in there. He said they would have to be starving to do that.
    He has rung the cops with noise complaint, nothing could be done as our one local cop is on leave, rung his real estate agent only to be told there was nothing they could do as the landlord does not now have the front flat on their books. No collars or tags and our council has a blitz on re unregistered dogs so he has rung them too.
    I think the RSPCA is next. He is becoming very concerned about the welfare of these dogs.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Bundy

    If that happened with neighbours of mine, I'd be over there to discuss the health of the dog and ask them what they were doing about it, if only to prevent my dog getting infected...

    And if the dog died, I'd phone the RSPCA, discuss it with them, I'd write down what happened and if the neighbours ever got another dog, I'd be onto the RSPCA on DAY 1, reminding them of what happened this time.

    If a man was beating his wife (or loud family dispute), I'd call the police if the noise was freaking me out, but if I could clearly hear that she was ok, and still talking to him, and never said "help" or "please don't hit me", I doubt I'd call the police - because they come out and if the wife is not obviously injured and won't point the finger at the hubby - then nothing is going to happen except the neighbours will be mad at you.

    Of course you could warn them if they don't shut up or be quiet - you're going to call the police but that makes it hard for her if she does decide she needs help. If it's a dog in trouble - again, discuss with RSPCA first. They will know what you need to do to make it stop.

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