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    Sorry but even if he is fully reformed which I highly doubt he is he should be banned for life from owning any animals what so ever. Sorry for his kids but that is how it should be he did many cruel horrible things and he doesn't deserve to have the pleasure of owning an animal again.

    I think that these speeches he is doing are not because he believes in what he is saying but probably because the NFL has asked him to do it and to bolster his reputation again.

    load of tosh, never allow him to own a dog again that would be irresponsible.

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    I agree that he is only doing the speeches for his own gain but the thing that I keep coming back to is that he is a powerful role model for black kids growing up in poor areas knowing nothing but crime & saddness from the very start of thier lives. They are more likely to listen & remember a talk about animal cruelty deleivered by Michael Vick than a law inforcement type of speaker. And everything we're(worldwide) doing to educate about animal cruelty is just not reaching this types of communities & cultures.
    I like most of the op's on this thread agree that he is most likely not rehabilated enough if at all to have a pet yet if ever. I do beleive in genuine second chances but they have to been earned over time as I have witnessed amazing changes in additude, beliefs & lifestyles. But I do have to admitt it's the exseption to the rule a leapord never changes it's spots as poeple do seem to have alot more trouble being rehabilated compared to dogs. But some people do make amazing turn arounds & completly change their whole lives & are genuinely sorry & regretful for thier past.
    I think I agree most with the op's who says let him keep giving his talks & lectures but hold of & take a wait & see approach as far as letting him have another puppy (or any animal for that matter).
    I personally would need to see him doing a whole lot more genuine personal therpy insteed of all the grandstanding he seems to be doing now, whether it be for his NLF manager or not. For me to think he was making a real effort at rehabilation it would take abit of a different approch altogether really.
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    There are plenty of African American role models out there. He is NOT one of them.

    Unfortunately dog fighting is quite common in some areas of America (and other countries but for now I'm referring to the USA) And has been going on for generations. This means that sadly there must be some serious desensitisation.

    Vick can get his arse out there and talk about how appauling, cruel, incomprehensible and vile dog fighting is. That's a start, yes but he needs to be brutally honest and not gloss over the 'hard' bits. This piece of dirt hung, electrocuted and tortured dogs. The people he is 'preaching' to need the truth.

    However he should never be allowed near a living, breathing animal ever ever again regardless of how 'rehabilitated' he thinks he is.

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    Absolutely NOT. There are rescue groups who have some of his dogs who are still rehabilitating them from the mental and physical abuse he inflicted on them. He made conscious decisions to put these dogs' lives on the line, and things like this are like drug addiction: sometimes you don't ever come 'clean' off them. He, to me, is in the same category as a murderer. Because that's all he is.

    My friend sponsors a dog for me at Best Friends Sanctuary in Utah who came from Vick's place. The dog is terminally ill and apart from that, perfectly fine in temperament. He was one of the luckier ones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra View Post
    Absolutely NOT. There are rescue groups who have some of his dogs who are still rehabilitating them from the mental and physical abuse he inflicted on them. He made conscious decisions to put these dogs' lives on the line, and things like this are like drug addiction: sometimes you don't ever come 'clean' off them. He, to me, is in the same category as a murderer. Because that's all he is.

    My friend sponsors a dog for me at Best Friends Sanctuary in Utah who came from Vick's place. The dog is terminally ill and apart from that, perfectly fine in temperament. He was one of the luckier ones.
    Are you saying drug addicts never get clean? Because I am a qualified drug & alchole counsler & although many don't I do know some who have made huge changes in their life & havn'e touch any druds for many years now.
    I agree the guy did hurrendous things there is no doubting that, I also beleive he is yet rehabilated if ever but I do beleive poeple can change.
    If it was my decision I would not give the guy a dog but it has got me thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJames View Post
    There are plenty of African American role models out there. He is NOT one of them.

    Unfortunately dog fighting is quite common in some areas of America (and other countries but for now I'm referring to the USA) And has been going on for generations. This means that sadly there must be some serious desensitisation.

    Vick can get his arse out there and talk about how appauling, cruel, incomprehensible and vile dog fighting is. That's a start, yes but he needs to be brutally honest and not gloss over the 'hard' bits. This piece of dirt hung, electrocuted and tortured dogs. The people he is 'preaching' to need the truth.

    However he should never be allowed near a living, breathing animal ever ever again regardless of how 'rehabilitated' he thinks he is.
    Yes there are some wonderful role models but not many really reach the communities I'm talking about on this particular subject. My dads family are from america & my brothers & sisters did their high school years in Arazona & Californa so I do have some idea of thats going on over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Are you saying drug addicts never get clean? Because I am a qualified drug & alchole counsler & although many don't I do know some who have made huge changes in their life & havn'e touch any druds for many years now.
    I agree the guy did hurrendous things there is no doubting that, I also beleive he is yet rehabilated if ever but I do beleive poeple can change.
    If it was my decision I would not give the guy a dog but it has got me thinking.
    Hence why I said sometimes people never come clean off them. It's not even on the same level, most drug users don't cause intentional pain and suffering to another living being (of course there are cases, but it's mostly uncommon).


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    I am in contact with some newf folk in the USA....They are beside themselves that he has got away with so much
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    But seriously he can still have dogs now and no one knows about them.

    So after all this media attention dies down and he comes old news, he probably will get another dog. Yes I feel sorry for his kids but they will get a dog.

    The america rscpa arent going to check his backyard every day or week to see if he doesn't have a dog.

    You never know he might of learnt his lesson..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJames View Post
    There are plenty of African American role models out there. He is NOT one of them.

    Unfortunately dog fighting is quite common in some areas of America (and other countries but for now I'm referring to the USA) And has been going on for generations. This means that sadly there must be some serious desensitisation.

    Vick can get his arse out there and talk about how appauling, cruel, incomprehensible and vile dog fighting is. That's a start, yes but he needs to be brutally honest and not gloss over the 'hard' bits. This piece of dirt hung, electrocuted and tortured dogs. The people he is 'preaching' to need the truth.

    However he should never be allowed near a living, breathing animal ever ever again regardless of how 'rehabilitated' he thinks he is.
    And don't forget the rape chairs.

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