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    Gold Coast City Council Piloting reforms by the looks of it, anyone on here live there? would this be right?

    http://www.awlqld.com.au/files/Breed...on%20Sheet.pdf

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    Dose that say if you have an entire dog wether you breed it or not you need a permitt????
    Please tell me I have this wrong?? I get their are a few exsemptions but generally that is what their saying isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Dose that say if you have an entire dog wether you breed it or not you need a permitt????
    Please tell me I have this wrong?? I get their are a few exemptions but generally that is what their saying isn't it?
    Yep I believe thats what it means. Basically as far as they are concerned if you are not a breeder, shower or can't desex for medical reasons you cannot have an entire dog/bitch or you have to pay the $370 etc to keep them. Most people just wont bother telling the council anyways but still a good law to encourage people to desex their animals.

    Why keep an entire dog if you don't intend on using it for breeding or showing?

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    crazydog, I'm pretty sure the law just means if you are going to breed your dog you have to have a permit first, not that you have to special register entire dogs.
    Here in Tasmania it costs extra to have an entire dog registered anyway so a lot of people aren't even registering their dogs... it's a huge fail on the councils part.

    It's somewhere around the $60 mark to register an entire, un-microchipped dog for the year.
    It is only $15 to register a desexed, microchipped dog.

    A lot of people aren't going to bother registering at all with all these new laws.

    A good thing to come out of it is all breeders will be given a unique number (pretty much the same as you get with the ANKC) and without that number you cannot advertise in any newspapers or trading magazines and you cannot sell via pet stores.

    It will make people think twice about breeding on purpose if they can't advertise but lets face it... 90% of pregnancy questions on the net the OP says they are all "going to friends".

    But it will really hurt those proper breeders who only breed the occasional litter... all this extra hassle and hoops they have to jump through they might just not bother anymore.

    Sorry for the rant... I guess I am still undecided whether or not it is a good or bad thing... time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Yep I believe thats what it means. Basically as far as they are concerned if you are not a breeder, shower or can't desex for medical reasons you cannot have an entire dog/bitch or you have to pay the $370 etc to keep them. Most people just wont bother telling the council anyways but still a good law to encourage people to desex their animals.

    Why keep an entire dog if you don't intend on using it for breeding or showing?
    I totally agree the average dog owner should desex their dog if not showing or breeding.
    But there are other reasons to not desex, I find desex dogs can be lazier & therefore don't have the same work ethic or drive as an entire. I don't desex male work dogs(sheepdogs,guardains) unless I need to for health or temperment issues. This dose not mean these dogs are free to breed at will & because they are entire dogs I make double sure they can not stray to neigbouring farms & country towns. I have had entire dogs that would have never ever mated in their life & no they wheren't furstrated or anything, lol.
    Bitches I do tend to desex after they are fully astablished in their work if I don't intend to ever breed them as I don't find as much change in their work ethic & drive(as long as they aren't allowed to get fat)so the health benifits & not having to kennel them for nearly a month twice a year far outways the negitives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    crazydog, I'm pretty sure the law just means if you are going to breed your dog you have to have a permit first, not that you have to special register entire dogs.
    Here in Tasmania it costs extra to have an entire dog registered anyway so a lot of people aren't even registering their dogs... it's a huge fail on the councils part.
    [COLOR="teal"] Same for our council in NSW & the smae probs coming of it less poeple are reg[COLOR="teal"]
    It's somewhere around the $60 mark to register an entire, un-microchipped dog for the year.
    It is only $15 to register a desexed, microchipped dog.

    A lot of people aren't going to bother registering at all with all these new laws.

    A good thing to come out of it is all breeders will be given a unique number (pretty much the same as you get with the ANKC) and without that number you cannot advertise in any newspapers or trading magazines and you cannot sell via pet stores.
    Yes I do like that part also
    It will make people think twice about breeding on purpose if they can't advertise but lets face it... 90% of pregnancy questions on the net the OP says they are all "going to friends". Yes & I worry there will be more pups dumped at pounds,rspca etc because if they cann't get friends to take them & they can no longer advertise what will they do with the pups????

    But it will really hurt those proper breeders who only breed the occasional litter... all this extra hassle and hoops they have to jump through they might just not bother anymore.
    Yep thats me. I only breed when I already have a reason & homes for the pups so I'm lucky to have 1 litter a year & can go 3yrs with no litters too.
    Sorry for the rant... I guess I am still undecided whether or not it is a good or bad thing... time will tell.
    No worries about the rant I think we may be much on the same page here.

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    CD - Thanks for that I was trying to be snippy I was curious as to why some people keep entire dogs if they are not breeders or showers but your reason for keeping the males seems valid if your in that situation. Keeping male dogs entire wouldn't be a problem if everyone desexed at least their females anyways.

    Crested is right a lot of people don't register as it is because it costs more to register a entire dog but I bet the ones who do will now avoid it because it will cost them even more.

    Doesn't really solve the problem will probably exacerbate it in a way. Unless they start handing out fines to people whose dogs have litters and do not have a breeder number. Which would mean getting on trading post etc and finding the people with the puppies and then fining them.

    Really breeders shouldn't have to pay for it. In the end we already pay enough bloody taxes to councils, government etc that they should be able to afford to do this without charging more $$$

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    K&F,
    I toke it as enquiring ,not snipping, lol...........
    I caome across totally different lots of times than how I really meant it on forums & I know I am prickly & even try & look out for it yet sometimes when I reread posts I've made I cringe & think no wonder they think I'm a bitch, lol..............
    TAXES are a real pet hate of mine & I agree everytime we turn around they come up with a new or higher tax or a surcharge or a fine it's bulldust isn't it.

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    When the whole thing is fine tuned and finished I will be surprised if proper working dogs are not exempt from these laws, obviously there would be few actual working dogs on the Gold Coast and they are tough on dogs anyway so maybe the end result will not be as severe as this suggests.

    Mind you as far as non working dogs go, if one needs a permit and number all should need it otherwise it will be just another Gvt mess.

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    Ha CrazyDog don't get me started on my taxes rant LOL.

    Yeah the one thing about forums is you can often be mistaken for being bitchy or rude when that is not how you meant to come across thats what happens with no facial expression and the pitch of your voice always helps as well

    Sorry offtopic.

    They really should fine tune things before making them a law. If they just included the public in these things they would probably be on top of the working dogs thing already.

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