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    Barney hasnt met any new dogs since he got to Australia last July so I was a little concerned about reactions etc.

    Well no need to worry. The boys became fast friends and spent the few days together out in the back yard having a blast.

    We did have one little tiff when we were out there on Xmas Eve putting my kids tramp together. But Keb rolled almost immediately and we yelled "stop" and it wa sover before it even really started.

    Unfortunately, it worked out this time that Pippi spent the few days inside with us (which she seemed to enjoy gettign extra treats and cuddles with mum and going for a walk every 2 hours LOL). She seems to have some dog aggression (fear based as best as I can tell) and we didn't want her to set off any scraps between the big boys (especially considering Barney would probably really mess keb up if they got started)

    I have never had a dog with this kind of issue before (all previous dogs have been dog friendly) so any advice on introducing her to Keb, when he comes back on the 3rd of Jan for a couple of nights, from all you experienced people would be fantastic. Unless oyu think we should just keep her in again??

    We are getting a behaviourist in, in the new year to help us with her for this particular issue (we hav tried things but she is a stubborn wee lass).

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    Wow, that's a lot of detail and not much relevant information.

    Which dog is yours. Which dogs are yours?

    Which dog is the visiting one?

    What kind of dog is each dog? Why do you think Pippi is fear aggressive? What does she do and when and why?

    Which dog has what issue?

    As best I can tell from what you wrote:

    Barney and Keb sometimes fight and Keb rolls over, but you're not confident the fight would stop without your intervention. So I'm thinking these dogs would need to be securely separated when you're not around to supervise.

    Ie Barney shows some sign of dog aggression or desire to be top dog. And you say Pippi also shows aggression. So you can't leave her alone with the other dogs either.

    And if Barney and Pippi disagree on who is boss dog - you've got problems there, the common problem being Barney, ie it may be possible to get Pippi and Keb working well together but adding Barney to the mix may cause problems.

    Hopefully a behaviourist may help but in the meantime I'd be getting or building separate crates or dog runs for each of them for when you're not available to supervise. And I might only let two play together at a time.

    I haven't read all of your posts so the answers might be in there but I find for a thread to be a useful reference - it helps to have all the important info in the same thread and not to need to go look up loads of other threads to find the info. I don't read every thread and every post (surprise).

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    Good questions and I will try to answer as best I can.

    Pippi and Barney are mine. Keb is my mums.

    Barney is as best we can tell a lab x. Pippi is a foxy/shih tzu mix. Keb is a NZ Huntaway/Beagle mix.

    This is the FIRST time Keb has met any other dogs. Basically the only time an issue arose with the dogs was when we were out there, or more accurately, when Kebs owner was out there (my mums husband) and they made a bit of noise it really wasnt a scrap. I am confident leaving the boys (Barney and Keb) out there. But I prefer my mum and her husband not to go in the back yard because it seems to set Keb off. If we (me and my OH) go in the back yard there are no issues (my comments about scrapping and Barney messing Keb up are really quite irrelavent I guess as it is just me musing and going off on a tangent).

    Pippi definitely has soem dog aggression. She loves Barney to pieces (he is her big brother) but when she sees another dog, she goes nuts and has bitten another much larger dog when out walking once (its a long story but the dog was all up in her face and mine too for that matter). The reason I assume it is fear aggression is because she will go nuts, but given the option (i.e. no lead) she will hide from them. I have already talked to a behaviourist and from what I told her she agreed it seemed like fear aggression but she said she would confirm when we have our consult.

    Far as we can tell, Barney really has no issues. He gets excited when a new dog comes round but does not start fights...he is a lover and player not a fighter.

    Sorry, I am pretty crap at wording everything so it makes real sense. I tend to go off on tangents and include irrelevant information because I type everything I am thinking instead of just the facts LOL

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    Further information that may or may not be relevant. Pippi and Barney run together 24/7without supervision. I.e. They are outside together when we go to work and then inside together when we are home and then they sleep together We do not have ANY issues between the two of them. They don't eyeball each other or anything. There are no arguments or scuffling for position in our house.

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    I also don't know if this is relevant or not, but our dogs are exercised (bike riding) and are obediant to the degree we wish them to be.

    My mums dog is not either.

    Our dogs are also indoors with us when we are home. My mums dog is not, he is an outdoor dog and let in occasionally.

    I guess I was worried about Barney's reaction just really because since he got to Aus he hasnt met any new dogs, and when we left him and Chevy (RIP) in NZ for 3 months when we first came my friends dog started a few scraps with him towards the end and I was concerned this may affect the way he reacted with new dogs (it hasn't obviously).

    Not sure if this is helpful or if I am just blabbing incoherently now LOL

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    Barney and Keb are not really the issue here.

    I guess the only thing I am really wondering is, when Keb comes back on the third for a night or two (before my olds drive back to Melbourne) should I attempt to introduce Pippi to Keb, or am I better to keep her inside again and wait until we have had our consult with the behaviourist before trying something like that.

    All previous dogs we have never had an issue with, they have all been dog friendly and well behaved.

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    Well I need to ask some questions first before I say anything?
    How old is Pipi & is he desexed? Has he always been your dog since a puppy or when?
    What dog interaction dose Pippi get & where dose it take place?
    Who is the boss between your dogs? Can you tell pippi to stop barking at a dog or showing aggression? What are Pippi's other issues? How obedent is the dog & how much control do you honestly have of Pippi generally & on lead & in training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydog View Post
    Well I need to ask some questions first before I say anything?
    How old is Pipi & is he desexed? Has he always been your dog since a puppy or when?
    What dog interaction dose Pippi get & where dose it take place?
    Who is the boss between your dogs? Can you tell pippi to stop barking at a dog or showing aggression? What are Pippi's other issues? How obedent is the dog & how much control do you honestly have of Pippi generally & on lead & in training?
    Pippi is 16 months old an dyes she is desexed. We got her at 8 weeks old.

    She interacts with Barney obviously though the day we brought her home she attacked him. Obviously she is fine with him now and loves him to pieces, always copying everything he does.

    She went to puppy preschool and displayed the aggression on lead, and the minute we took her off lead she hid under the chair for each lesson, only really cming out and attemtping to interact at the last lesson. And if the other pups were too "forward" with her, she went back under the chair.

    I would say Barney is the top dog. He only has to "look" at Pippi a certain way and she will stop annoying him, however he doesnt give the look very often as he is super tolerant of her wanting to play all the time.

    Pippi doesnt have any other issues, though if she sees her reflection in a window she will also go nuts at that until she realises its a reflectiona nd not another dog.

    No, I cannot snap her out of barking when she sees another dog. I just generally ignore the behaviour and continue walking. She snaps out of it very quickly.

    Apart from that Pippi is a pleasure to walk and a very well behaved calm little girl. Training wise, she is super smart but can sometimes be a little "arrogant". For instance initially she owuld not come when called insde the house. First ever dog I had met who would not come when inside the house. This has changed after work and she now comes when told. She stays when told and wont move until you say she can. When the leads come out, she doesnt get excited, she just stands patiently and waits.

    So, apart from this other dog thing, she is a real pleasure.

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    I dont know if this will help, and it probably wont be for ages anyway, but next time I take her for a walk (not a bike ride) I can video her with my new video camera (any excuse to use it) so you can see what shes like.

    On a bike ride, she does not even give other dogs a second glance.

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    So since puppy preschool & her house mate there is no other dog interaction other than aggressive displays on the lead? So they didn't work on it all at puppy preshool & if they did waht did they/you try? So you can or can not let her off lesh? Wondering as some dogs like Pippi can be off lead at the park ect & just ignore the other dogs & they ignore her. Or there is 2 other outcomes 1 she will be the attacker & take off after certain or all dogs when off leash or 2 if left off leash at a park around other dogs Pippi always seems to become a target of another dogs aggression. Where dose she fit?
    I would start by instead of ignoring her outburst on walks seek out dogs in yards she hates say & everytime she started turn & walk the oppisite dirrection. As soon as you have her focus back on you turn back around & try again. Try & see that the very fist signs are that she's going to maybe start & correct her then before it gets out of control. Using this keep going untill you can walk past the said yard with her taking no notice. Praise her big time when she dose get it.

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