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    I want to get my poodles into fly ball, I just now Milly would love it...............

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    YAY !!
    Now I can watch Crufts...
    It is now on Foxtel on Demand for the next 6 days....
    http://www.dogforum.com.au/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=577&dateline=12727082  14

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    Interesting, i'd never heard of this before (despite having Foxtel) so I looked it up. Found this in the criticism section:

    "The Kennel Club was criticised on the BBC programme Pedigree Dogs Exposed for allowing breed standards, judging standards and breeding practices which are said to compromise the health of purebred dogs.[2] The programme led to various sponsors such as Hill's Pet Nutrition, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and Dogs Trust to withdraw their participation in Crufts and other Kennel Club events. The BBC eventually dropped Crufts 2009 from their coverage after being unable to agree to terms with the Kennel Club. It was reported that Pedigree Petfoods withdrew from sponsorship of Crufts following this programme, but their announcement was made well in advance of the broadcast and for financial reasons.

    The Kennel Club initially defended their practices,[3] and criticised the program as "highly biased".[4] It also lodged a complaint to regulatory authority Ofcom claiming "unfair treatment and editing".[5]

    Due to the strong public response, the Kennel Club started rolling out new health plans. Breed standards for every breed went under review and show judges would be required to choose only healthy dogs. It has also requested regulatory powers from the Government, which would allow the club to take actions against breeders who do not comply with health standards.[6] Bans on close inbreeding is set to take effect on March 1[citation needed]. New breed standards for 209 dog species were announced in January 2009, and are to be effective immediately, but with breeders allowed until June to object.[7] The new standards will "not include anything that could in any way be interpreted as encouraging features that might prevent a dog from breathing, walking and seeing freely." "This will help to prevent the practice of exaggeration, where features that are perceived to be desirable, such as a short muzzle or loose skin, are made more prominent by breeders, and which can have detrimental effects on a dog’s health.""
    - Wikipedia

    Seems like they haven't really changed their practices after reading some of your comments.

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    That article is A) From Wikipedia which automatically makes it useless
    and B) Is about Europe (the parts that are accurate anyway)

    I hope they don't go messing around with breed standards here, there is nothing wrong with the standards, some breeders just interpret them wrong or exaggerate parts.
    Look at the Pug standard:
    Head relatively large, round, not apple-headed, with no indentation of skull. Muzzle relatively short, blunt, square, not upfaced. Nose fairly large with well open nostrils. Wrinkles on forehead clearly defined without exaggeration. Eyes or nose never adversely affected or obscured by over nose wrinkle. Pinched nostrils and heavy or over nose wrinkle is unacceptable and should be heavily penalised.
    Nothing there that would make them not breathe properly.

    A judge can't tell if a dog is "healthy" unless they are a qualified vet and do a full exam on each dog as well as judge it.

    Unfortunately we don't have pay tv so I can't watch it until someone gets it on DVD so I can borrow it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    That article is A) From Wikipedia which automatically makes it useless
    and B) Is about Europe (the parts that are accurate anyway)

    I hope they don't go messing around with breed standards here, there is nothing wrong with the standards, some breeders just interpret them wrong or exaggerate parts.
    Look at the Pug standard:

    Nothing there that would make them not breathe properly.

    A judge can't tell if a dog is "healthy" unless they are a qualified vet and do a full exam on each dog as well as judge it.

    Unfortunately we don't have pay tv so I can't watch it until someone gets it on DVD so I can borrow it!
    The pugs standard has just been revised actully.

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    ANKC website news page states the last breed amendment was for the Pekingese and Corgi on 04/12/2008.
    Australian National Kennel Council

    Pug standard was last updated, but not revised or amended on 22/05/2009.

    If you have any links to breed standard changes would be good to read them.

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    yes upadated & the eyes revised to not say pertruding was what I was lead to believe.

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    Toy Group Breed Standard amendments - The Kennel Club
    this site has the pugs revised standard & ANKC seems to follow TKC so I would think this will soon (if it dosn't already) apply here also. But I may be wrong maybe ANKC is finally decided things for themselves & if so maybe I will rejoin(big maybe, lol).

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    Thanks crazy dog but uhhhhh, this has always been the Australian KC standard on Pug eyes

    Eyes: Dark, not too large, round in shape, soft and solicitous in expression, very lustrous, and when excited, full of fire. Never protruding, exaggerated or showing white. Free from obvious eye problems.
    I think one of us is confused, and it's most likely me

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    Maybe me........... If aussy standard has always said never protruding eyes then my mistake.

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