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    But I am not saying what other should & should not like just what I beleive.
    I am sorry I have everyone so pissed...........
    I really am not a bad person & have many yrs knowledge of doing[not just talking about it] different dog retraining etc.
    I though I had something to offer.......................
    maybe not.........................

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    You obviously do Crazy and we can see this which is probably why some of us are so on the defensive. You sound as you are quite knowledgable on things , that is great! That is fantastic actually! The forum needs more people like this , but some of your posts have been read as very 'insulting' or very 'pushy' . Trying to make others way seem wrong is not going to help educate anyone.

    I realise this is not what you set out to do and it is why I said in the previous post to perhaps just be careful about how you word things
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    Thanks for your advise..............
    this is most likely why I get along with animals better than people, lol........
    I am bad at coming across totally different than how I mean too............
    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    mmm..... not sure where to start really .

    There must be Loo Monsters in this house as well because I simply cannot be allowed to pee without supervision , there might be a hidden door out of there you know!
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    I had to laugh at this one. I have loo monsters too! It would be nice sometimes not to have such strict supervision! Mine just barge in uninvited. They thrust open the sliding door with no decorum and march in.

    I have 6 working dogs and occasionally there is general mayhem. I feed them first, I let them out of doors first, mainly to clear a path for me, although they are all capable of waiting if I want them too. I rough house and play lots of tug to rev them up for agility. I have never really been one for pack and dominance theories. I do think a stable older dog is an asset as I have one of these, but I am the main influencing factor with my dogs.

    With the dominance, it is not really clearly defined in my pack. I have 2 un neutered males of the same age and they seem equally matched and although they have the odd eyeball there is no clear winner, so there are rarely any disputes.

    The 4 bitches have my lead dog by her age and determination, the 2 in the middle are friends and the youngest bitch hangs out with the young males and is on the same level as them in their world, although bottom bitch. The males have no pecking order within the female ranks and the females have no pecking order within the male ranks.

    I only have one clearly defined dog that is at the top - my older dog and she prefers to hang out with me although she is a playful dog and likes to play with the others especially the boys. But she is not adverse to playing with the other girls if she has a mind.

    The two boys are the biggest dogs physically but they keep well clear of any female disputes and certainly do not argue with them ( wise boys).

    I really dont get to hung up on the whole thing because when it counts - going to trials etc, my dogs behave as they should. At home they are generally well behaved but are not adverse to barging through doorways and barking - heck I live on a farm so who really cares? They do come when they are called, work sheep when required and they do sleep nicely at night without incident, oh and turn in the occassionally winning run at agility
    what more could you want LOL

    I do however agree though 100% that dumping a dog in the back yard without training and proper exercise is not right.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 12-18-2010 at 11:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    I had to laugh at this one. I have loo monsters too! It would be nice sometimes not to have such strict supervision! Mine just barge in uninvited. They thrust open the sliding door with no decorum and march in.

    I have 6 working dogs and occasionally there is general mayhem. I feed them first, I let them out of doors first, mainly to clear a path for me, although they are all capable of waiting if I want them too. I rough house and play lots of tug to rev them up for agility. I have never really been one for pack and dominance theories. I do think a stable older dog is an asset as I have one of these, but I am the main influencing factor with my dogs.

    With the dominance, it is not really clearly defined in my pack. I have 2 un neutered males of the same age and they seem equally matched and although they have the odd eyeball there is no clear winner, so there are rarely any disputes.

    The 4 bitches have my lead dog by her age and determination, the 2 in the middle are friends and the youngest bitch hangs out with the young males and is on the same level as them in their world, although bottom bitch. The males have no pecking order within the female ranks and the females have no pecking order within the male ranks.

    I only have one clearly defined dog that is at the top - my older dog and she prefers to hang out with me although she is a playful dog and likes to play with the others especially the boys. But she is not adverse to playing with the other girls if she has a mind.

    The two boys are the biggest dogs physically but they keep well clear of any female disputes and certainly do not argue with them ( wise boys).

    I really dont get to hung up on the whole thing because when it counts - going to trials etc, my dogs behave as they should. At home they are generally well behaved but are not adverse to barging through doorways and barking - heck I live on a farm so who really cares? They do come when they are called, work sheep when required and they do sleep nicely at night without incident, oh and turn in the occassionally winning run at agility
    what more could you want LOL

    I do however agree though 100% that dumping a dog in the back yard without training and proper exercise is not right.
    Yes I have no order after the top dog Bubba, & he will avoid fighting with the girls but at the end of the day his word rules. I do have a top bitch[within the bitches] & generally if there is a fight it's bitches. But Bubba will split up their squables if they get too out of hand.
    I live between a farm & a house I am renovating & my dogs have lived both farm life & small country town life. Bubba was an active farm guardain but his age is such that he can not cover the kms anymore, so he's become my personal guardain, lol.

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    I have no hassles re dogs on couches or going in and out of doors before or after me.
    Different strokes for different folks.
    Sometimes a dog may be on the couch when hubby gets home. The dog will open an eye to see if hubby wants to lie on the couch or go to the lounge chair.
    Depending on which he wants the dog either stays or is asked to move.

    All these years it did not matter if dogs went before or after us through doors. Whichever way just happened...until these dogs came into our lives and my son's back injury 6 years ago.
    The dogs now have to wait or go out first on command or wait so that if he is visiting he does not get tripped.
    Now that the 3 are inside together during the afternoons/evenings they know it is only one outside at a time. The others are told to stay if they too wish to go out. They take turns. Sometimes I have to hold one back by the collar while the other goes out but this is lessening all the time.
    They get fed on dusk. Yep, before us. So what? It works for us.
    We eat from our laps in the loungeroom. The 3 know they will not get any titbits or do the pre wash cycle for our plates until we have finished.
    They will sit and hope for a short time then just lie.
    All 3 are happy to try and lick the one plate of ours if the other one of us has not quite finished. Never a fight. It is just woohoo, 3 heads down and 3 tails wagging, then they get to clean the other one a bit later. It saves me rinsing them for the dishwasher.

    There will either be 3 titbits for three dogs or none.
    One does not get favoured over another.

    I don't believe in hard and fast rules with either kids, us or dogs in the "grey areas" of getting along together.
    Of course there are things that must be adhered too regarding patience, manners, sitting and staying when necessary.
    One is not jumping at me and knocking me down when I let them out of the pen. That one is set in stone.
    I think we are all different. Our dogs and ways of life are all different too, as is how we expect and need different grades of rules and behaviours in our dogs. What is right for some may not be right for another.
    I do not see it as tussles for dominance.
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    Di,
    I do not beleive every behavour is a tussle for dominance but for me there are some things that are very dominate behavours. Also I totally agree what works for 1 may not work for another although there are some rules that I find fairly universal to having a settled pack. My pack consist of some very strong personalities & some very powerful breeds so I like to keep thinks simple & straight forward. With a home pack of 8 & often having as many as 12 I need to run a fairly tight ship so to speak.
    That said my dogs are like anyone elses & are not perfect but we generally do ok.

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    We don't have a dominant dog...we only have two at the moment but neither seems to be top. We dont have eye balling, or anything like that.

    I am on the fence a bit with "dominance" type things. I don't think it works to compare a home situation with a few dogs to a true pack. At the end of the day, we are not dogs and they know that so true pack rules and dominance behaviours arent going to work exactly the same in most situations.

    My dogs have pretty free rein in our place. If they want to have a sleep on the bed, they can have a sleep on the bed...the only concession is, if I want to get in it they have to get off and wait for me to get comfortable before they can get back up again. If they want to sprawl all over the couch, they can do that as long as if I decide I want to sit there, they get off.

    The only place they arent allowed to make themselves at home is in my daughters bedroom...she doesnt like dog hair in her room. The dogs know they are not allowed in her room unless invited so they dont go in there, though they do occasionally follow her in where they are promptly told to get out lol.

    I also feed my dogs before we eat. The dogs are fed as soon as we all get home from work and we often eat our tea hours later.

    I thnk there are many different ways to raise dogs and whatever works for one person isnt going to work for another. It just wouldnt work in our house if we made the dogs wait everytime we opened a door, or if we didnt let them up on the couch etc (cuddling with the dog son the couch is one of my fave things) and thus far we have never had a troubled or aggressive dog...we have never even had an issue where the dogs fight amongst themselves and we have had varying temperaments and personalities so I guess we are doing something right.

    Are my dogs perfect? Absolutely not but we love em just liek they are.

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    I don't have to run a fairly tight ship so to speak, thank goodness but I sure can see the need for it in other's families and the packs they have.
    Whilst here they are happy to feed from the one bowl that sure as heck would not work for my friend who has her own dogs, fosters and boarders.
    All those dogs have their separate feed stations. Some inside, some in a closed room, others outside in the internal dog yard and the greyhounds within the bordering external one.
    Rules of behaviour need to be strictly enforced there.

    She, like you, Crazy has to keep it simple and straight forward for it to work with the minimum of angst for all concerned.
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    Lala,
    I too love a cuddle on the lounge & spend many hrs whilst sick recently on the lounge with my poodle. Only difference here they only come up when asked, well most of the time anyway, lol. I am glad your dogs arn't eyeballing each other as they shouldn't in a stable enviroment. I agree a household with 2 or 3 dogs is not really a pack enviroment & that very few dogs live in a pack enviroment these days. But that said it is in their DNA & a lot of dogs can revert to very raw canine behavour when scared or out of their element.
    Most problems I see are not due to domaince but fear aggression so I do not think dominance is the bee all & end all of dog behavours it is just what I have been studing lately.
    Di,
    Feeding from 1 bowl may be a problem here, lol........ Although all share 3 dry food bowls that are around the yard but their dinner is in their own bowls. I do not have as much problem with aggression over sharing but the TM's hate sharing dishes full stop. They just wont eat out of a dish someone else has slobered through. And the TM's always tip the dry food bowls out & eat of the ground. Weird ah...... Bubba was hell to show as he had to have his dishes lugged around as well & he will only pee & poo in private, no joke.

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