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    Kala-Kalacreek

    Im 22 and live with a friend. She doesn't have any pets, which is good cause I have 2 dogs, a cat, 2 rabbits and chooks and ducks(and a horse but he's agisted 5 minutes up the road).
    Im on the Mornington Peninsula, Vic, and my grandpa and step-grandma live in Nangus, NSW on a 1000acre sheep farm. He's had the farm for about 15 years, so we were visiting him as a family when I was at home, but I still love going up there with the dogs when I get a chance. He's a real traditional farmer. Dogs are workers. His dogs are what a lot of city folk would think of as too skinny, but they look like Kalacreeks, Ruby. You can see a slight amount of hip bone. A lot of people don't realise thats how they're meant to look. Lady is probably a bit too bulky, but considering she doesn't work, she's pretty good

    As for non working farm dogs being inside, my grandpas next door neighbour-try a three minute drive they have a little Pomeranian that lives inside and is their pet, and then three Kelpies that live outside.

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    Lol, Thanks, I sha'll call you Myf then .

    Lol so you live in Australia to!. I would honestly love to meet a proper farmer one day. I actually have no problem with a fit working dog, I go on another dog forum and there are a lot of dogs that are fit/conditioned and you can slightly see the hip bone but there such healthy dogs. Most people do freak out when they see this cause they do think a dogs to skinny but I've learnt a dog can be very healthy and show a bit, (not a lot) of bone. I am so jealous, I'd love to live on a farm!.

    Have you got any photo's of your grandpa's dogs?.

    I owned SBT who preferred living outside so that's were he lived though he was taken care of great and I know most (I guess there's bad ones, just like everything?) farmers would take excellent care of there working dogs.

    Does Roly live inside?.

    Since this thread has been de-railed already, lol. I thought I could ask, do you know what age pups start to mouth and when they want to start running off/ignoring there owners?. I've heard they get a bit independent at a certain age.

    I'm asking cause my girl is now 5months tomorrow and hasn't gotten mouthy yet and i train her quite a bit and allow her to walk off leash with me. She knows not to go to far ahead and if she does, she does stop and wait for me or I call her and she'll race back to me.

    One last thing, sorry. Do you think her weight of 6.6kg is good for a mix of her age or she should be bigger?.

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    Must be something about pomeranians! I know a few farmers with poms as house dogs!

    Yes all my working dogs have a bit of hip bone as do everyone elses. They are supreme athletes and dont need to be dragging extra weight around and they burn it off! When I visit the city to see my mum they are definitely different to the dogs we meet in the parks. My young male BC his muscles literally ripple underneath his short coat, he doesnt have an ounce of fat.

    It must be nice to be able to visit your Grandpas farm. I have friends that love to come out and stay with me from time to time and bring their dogs.

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    I actually think Poms are very very cute! :3 I could own one, lol.

    My male dog, Sunny (neutered) is a Kelpie x Ladrabor x Staffy is very thin, lean and shows a bit of hip bone. Defiantly must have got that from the kelpie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahsSunny View Post
    Since this thread has been de-railed already, lol. I thought I could ask, do you know what age pups start to mouth and when they want to start running off/ignoring there owners?. I've heard they get a bit independent at a certain age.

    I'm asking cause my girl is now 5months tomorrow and hasn't gotten mouthy yet and i train her quite a bit and allow her to walk off leash with me. She knows not to go to far ahead and if she does, she does stop and wait for me or I call her and she'll race back to me.

    One last thing, sorry. Do you think her weight of 6.6kg is good for a mix of her age or she should be bigger?.
    Not all pups will mouth, the only one of mine that was a bit mouthy was my ACD and I soon put a stop to that. None of mine have ever run off and ignored me either, except maybe when we go chasing rabbits and initially when I start training sheep and their instinct gets the better of them before they learn control. It is generally not something a well trained working dog will do.

    Just keep reinforcing you recalls and you will be fine. Kelpies and ACDS are good like that .


    The only way you can judge if her weight is right for her is to judge her condtion. I like a very small amount of hip. I grow my pups lean to try and lessen the development of dysplasias of cruciate problems or other joint problems.

    She needs to have a waist but her bones obviously shouldnt be sticking out. Her coat should be shiny.

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    I am interested to know, how did you train your ACD not to mouth?. I am so jealous you own a pure ACD!.

    I make sure I always reinforce my recalls. Sometimes she does ignore me but that's rare.

    I think she looks good for her age, she's got a nice slim build but I am not to worried about it as she is only young now but gosh she is still small for being 5 months!. I hope she gets taller, lol.

    I must go walk her now actually.

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    Did your pups try and test you at a certain age? at all?.

    Also, I am not sure if you walk your dogs since there working dogs and get plenty of exercise when working, did you ever have a problem with the pup/dog running off?. Or running off when they went to work when they were younger?.

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    Sorry no photos of my grandpas dogs, but I can definately get some when I go up next!

    Roly is an inside dog. He's a little sook. And considering he's 84 in human years, its fair enough. He ate snail bait about a year ago and he was so close to dying. Ever since he shivers a lot. You should see how rugged up he gets!

    She's got puppy fat, thats normal It nice you have an idea though. You wouldn't believe how many fat dogs we get in, especially Kelpies, ACDs and Labs. I kinda dislike ACDs and Labs now cause I've met so many fat ones
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    Unfortunately labs and ACDS are often overweight. Some people dont think mine are pure ACDS because they are lean. I also favour the lighter boned leggier ACDS. I would have to say they are my favourite dogs because they like hanging out with me best! and they are a bit quirky.

    I just told my ACD it hurt and would stop the game if she mouthed. She soon got the idea. I take them on long walks around my property when I go and check the fences etc and they run all over the place but they do come when they are called. My ACDS are a little more strong willed LOL but they have got much better.

    They were initially hard to recall back from sheep and kagaroos etc but I just kept working on it and they are pretty good these days. I do carry a couple of leads with me on a walk so if anyone misbehaves I put them on a lead.

    No I dont think any of them tested me at any particular age. They are less likely to if you give them plenty of consistent training from early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Sorry no photos of my grandpas dogs, but I can definately get some when I go up next!

    Roly is an inside dog. He's a little sook. And considering he's 84 in human years, its fair enough. He ate snail bait about a year ago and he was so close to dying. Ever since he shivers a lot. You should see how rugged up he gets!

    That would have been horrible. I lost one of my young dogs when she licked a poison sea slug on the beach. The vets couldnt save her despite their best efforts.

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