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    I got my kelpie x pup 2 years ago, and I took this video a few months after I got her. Whenever I took her to the beach with my mates dogs, she didnt seem to be interested in the balls and frisbees we threw, but instead seemed more interested in chasing the other dogs around, in a way which seemed liek she was rounding them up, she seemed to use eye, and would head and turn the other dogs, etc. It's been a dream of mine to do sheepdog trials, or even have a working dog. Does this look like my dog Roxy has a bit of herding ability in her?

    YouTube - Kelpie eyes other dogs, and attempts to herd them.
    Ask a Border Collie to jump and it'd say, "how high?", ask a Kelpie and he'll ask, "why?"

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    Ask a Border Collie to jump and it'd say, "how high?", ask a Kelpie and he'll ask, "why?"

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    Awwwww she is so cute!
    Lady doesn't chase balls, frisbees or stick either, she doesn't even have 'the eye', but majority of herders have natural ability, so what your dog is displaying is quite normal for the breed.
    I'm sure she'd be more than keen, its whether you are.
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    Skip is the same.. Doesn't chase balls but she will chase Boss.. If she didn't have the eye, she wouldn't be OH's work dog.

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    Thanks for the replys, I want to get a kelpie from a wkc breeder to get into sheep dog trials, it'd be cool if roxy could join in, or even compete herself
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    I dunno when the QLD season is for sheep dog trials - it's coming to the end of ours, too hot to run competition or training. You can look up the competition dates via your state dog association or even the ANKC, and go along and meet some people that do the sport and find some people who teach it. Trials - with only three sheep are a bit different to moving a mob of sheep from place to place, but you will find out if your dog has the "instinct", desire or inclination to do herding.

    Mine loves it, but I suspect it isn't good for agility sports. Ie the techniques, methods and signals conflict a bit. Not impossible to do both though.

    My dog will chase a ball or frisbee but rarely fetches it. I also know a few completely ball obsessed Border Collies who are great at sheep herding too. So liking to chase balls or dogs doesn't really relate to sheep herding ability. I know quite a few whippets who love a game of chase the dog, but would be useless at sheep herding. The sheep would laugh at them.

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    Dodge's parents are both workers and Dodge has an incredibly strong drive to work! she wont chase any toys unless it is the size of a basketball. Dodges only interest is to herd, and herd she does. she is constantly rounding up the chickens, cows, wild rabbits, and Koda, and she has had no training, it is just built in her. Your Kelpie does look like she has a bit of a drive to work, you should test her out with some sheep or cattle if you are keen!

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    thanks for the advice, I have often felt like driving down to someones property with cattle and seeing if she is interested in them (while on a lead) haha
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    After watching the video, I think you should definately give it a go. I have worked dogs on cattle for over 20 years and there is few things in life that is more rewarding. There is a big difference between a working dog and a trial dog, so if you are looking to go to a school make sure it is a trial school if thats what you want to do. But either way your dog will love it and thats what is important.

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    I live on a small farm and run sheep. I have a working bred BC and Kelpie that I train to work sheep.

    The only way to really know if a dog has potential is to try them on sheep. My BC is a very strong dog and is good on larger mobs. I think he is going to be too fiery for a 3 sheeper, time will tell. My kelpie is a good dog that has good potential as a 3 sheep dog, although she is naturally a straight caster and will split sheep if left to her own devices so I am working on squaring her flanks, widening her cast and also on her lift and she is coming on nicely.

    Some working dog clubs hold training days to encourage newbies. The dog needs to be introduced on suitable stock in a contained area. I have friends who sometimes ask me if they can try their dogs out on my stock. I have a big round yard and sheep I use for training, so everything is closely controlled otherwise you can put your dog and the livestock at risk of injury. A dog can have a bad experience and be turned off stock or a sheep can be badly bitten.

    In terms of agility and herding. I am training my BC and kelpie for agility and they seem to be coming along nicely and dont seem too conflicted. I try and keep the commands similar so have slightly unusual commands in each venue.

    I love training herding, but like anything it is a big commitment to train a young dog. Some are harder than others depending on their natural ability and instinct.

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