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    HI EVERYONE !
    TONIGHT I BROKE UP A FIGHT BETWEEN MY 2 GIRLS! IT SCARED THE ....OUT OF ME. MISI IS A 5 YEAR OLD STAFFY AND SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WITH OTHER DOGS, CATS, BIRDS. LOLA IS A 6.5 MONTH OLD X RESCUE PUP THAT UP UNTIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO WAS VERY SBMISSIVE AND POSSIBLY BULLIED BY OTHER DOGS. LOLA LOVES MISI BUT MISI PUTS UP WITH LOLA.
    TONIGHT THEY WERE PLAYING ON THE LOUNGE FLOOR WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE GROWLING GOT LOUD, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF CRYS COMING FROM LOLA AND THEY WERE ROLLING AROUND OUT OF CONTROL. I THOUGHT MISI HAD LOLA BY THE NECK BUT IT WAS BY HER COLLAR. I STARTED TO SCREAM AND CALL THEIR NAMES BUT THEY WOULDN'T STOP. LUCKLY I KEEP A SPRAY BOTTLE WITH WATER NEAR ME FOR JUST IN CASE AS MISI IS REALLY SCARED OF IT. IT WORKED! THEY STOPPED AND BEEN IGNORING EACH OTHER SINCE. FOR A FEW MINUTES AFTERWARDS MISI HAD BIG DROOLS HANGING FROM HER MOUTH - NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE...AS FOR LOLA...WHILE IN THE FIGHT SHE ACTUALLY WEE-ED HERSELF AND POO-ED HERSELF ( YEP - ALL OVER THE LOUNGE ROOM RUG)
    THESE 2 ARE NOT MY FIRST DOGS. I'D SAY I'M A PRETTY EXPERIENCED DOG OWNER BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD MORE THAN ONE DOG AT A TIME. THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME AND I'M SCARED THAT I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE GIRLS. BRFORE GETTING LOLA JUST OVER 2 MONTHS AGO, I READ BOOKS AND DID RESEARCH THE TOPIC OF GETTING ANOTHER DOG ON THE NET BUT TO BE HONEST, AFTER TONIGHT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...WHETHER THIS IS NORMAL TO FIGHT ONCE IN A WHILE. WHETHER THEY NEED TIME OUT FROM EACH OTHER ONCE IN A WHILE? WHETHER TO IGNORE FUTURE FIGHTS? (THERE WAS NO BLOOD/INJURIES). ANY ADVICE ABOUT KEEPING 2 DOGS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

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    Hey, dogs fight sometimes. It's normal, as long as it doesn't happen on daily basis. Perhaps older one got a bit annoyed with younger one. Maybe Lola bit Misi a bit hard, or did something annoying and Misi snapped. The fact that there is no injuries tells a lot. If Misi wanted to hurt her - she would have. Staffies are definetelly capable of it if they want to. Although it souns horrible to us, all the growling and stuff, it's normal. Watch out Lola's behaviour, and you might see her behaving with more respect towards Misi. She does not necesseraly have to lie on her back and wee herself or act completelly submissive, but you might see her being a bit carefull. I reckon Misi just showed her who's the boss, and who was first here

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    Hi Magdalena

    I understand how scared and worried you must have been. Dog fights are terrible to witness, esspecially when you love them both so much.

    It is very hard to comment without actually seeing what is happening, my first thought would be to seek the advice of a proffesional behaviourist.

    Having said that i can share my experiences and hope that may help.

    Missi needs to be supported in her position. Things like feeding her before Lola (i would be feeding them seperately and also removing their bowls after 15 minutes) supports her position and teaches Lola that she is lower in position to Missy.

    Allowing Missy to have her own space if needed is also important esspecially with a bub who has yet to learn about personal space! A bed inside just for Missy is good idea.Lola will need to respect that space as Missy's. (Lola should have her own bed too)

    If the two domminant females here are competing for affection together from me I prefer to stand up and walk, verbally praising Bella and supporting her position. The attention i give these two is one on one.

    Lola needs to learn when it is time to stop, if she is getting carried away you need to show her that it is not acceptable. If she does not respect that pop her in the bathroom or laundry for some time out (5mins)

    Lola is only a bub and lots of stimulation, toys and excercise will help her channel her energy into something positive. I would avoid toys stuffed with treats (unless separated) as this may set up food dominence in your girls.

    I would closely observe and suppervise your girls, esspecially short term.

    I hope this helps, i am sure others will come along to help

    Good luck Hon, you are a wonderful Mum! Let us know how you go

    Nic x

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    Yes...sometimes dogs just get annoyed with eachother. Lola was probably annoying Missi...she might have had a bad day..not feeling 100% ect and she just had enough and put Lola in her place.

    When I got Candy...it took Falcon about 8 weeks before he actually played with her...even now he'll let Candy know when he's had enough (it's funny though because Falcon is tiny compared to Candy...and she doesn't seem to care when he gets serious...so I help him out and take Candy away from him for a while for some time out).

    I wish it was like that with kids...arghhhhh...fight fight fight...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozeymum View Post
    Yes...sometimes dogs just get annoyed with eachother.

    I wish it was like that with kids...arghhhhh...fight fight fight...LOL

    Kids are definitely more feral that dogs!! Mine seem to never stop fighting sometimes!!

    They should be ok Magdalena, everyone has disagreements sometimes. Good advice from Nic about supporting your older dog in maintaining her position above the youngster too. Youngsters are always going to challenge authority sometimes - am thinking kids and teenagers again!!
    Sympathy for your rug too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    Hey, dogs fight sometimes. It's normal, as long as it doesn't happen on daily basis. Perhaps older one got a bit annoyed with younger one. Maybe Lola bit Misi a bit hard, or did something annoying and Misi snapped. The fact that there is no injuries tells a lot. If Misi wanted to hurt her - she would have. Staffies are definetelly capable of it if they want to. Although it souns horrible to us, all the growling and stuff, it's normal. Watch out Lola's behaviour, and you might see her behaving with more respect towards Misi. She does not necesseraly have to lie on her back and wee herself or act completelly submissive, but you might see her being a bit carefull. I reckon Misi just showed her who's the boss, and who was first here
    HI FEDRA
    THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!
    YOU ARE RIGHT! MISI HAS SHOWN ALOT OF PATIENCE IN THE LAST 2.5 MONTHS, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE'S BEEN THE ONLY DOG FOR 4.5 YEARS. IT'S JUST LOVELY TO BE REASSURED SINCE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME OWNING 2 DOGS! THANKS AGAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Hi Magdalena

    I understand how scared and worried you must have been. Dog fights are terrible to witness, esspecially when you love them both so much.

    It is very hard to comment without actually seeing what is happening, my first thought would be to seek the advice of a proffesional behaviourist.

    Having said that i can share my experiences and hope that may help.

    Missi needs to be supported in her position. Things like feeding her before Lola (i would be feeding them seperately and also removing their bowls after 15 minutes) supports her position and teaches Lola that she is lower in position to Missy.

    Allowing Missy to have her own space if needed is also important esspecially with a bub who has yet to learn about personal space! A bed inside just for Missy is good idea.Lola will need to respect that space as Missy's. (Lola should have her own bed too)

    If the two domminant females here are competing for affection together from me I prefer to stand up and walk, verbally praising Bella and supporting her position. The attention i give these two is one on one.

    Lola needs to learn when it is time to stop, if she is getting carried away you need to show her that it is not acceptable. If she does not respect that pop her in the bathroom or laundry for some time out (5mins)

    Lola is only a bub and lots of stimulation, toys and excercise will help her channel her energy into something positive. I would avoid toys stuffed with treats (unless separated) as this may set up food dominence in your girls.

    I would closely observe and suppervise your girls, esspecially short term.

    I hope this helps, i am sure others will come along to help

    Good luck Hon, you are a wonderful Mum! Let us know how you go

    Nic x
    THANKS SOOO MUCH NIC !
    A WONDERFUL MUM? OH...THAT'S SO NICE !
    BY READING LOTS OF STUFF BEFORE I GOT LOLA I KNEW TO TREAT MISI AS TOP DOG IN FRONT OF LOLA. THEREFORE I DO WHAT YOU SAID. MISI FIRST WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD, TREATS, TOYS ETC. I ALSO SHOW MISI AFFECTION IN FRONT OF LOLA-WHICH IS HARD...IS IT REALLY WRONG TO SHOW LOLA AFFECTION IN FRONT OF MISI?? ???THE GIRLS ARE ALWAYS SUPERVISED AS I WORK FROM HOME IT'S NOT THAT HARD. THEY EAT IN THE SAME ROOM AND SEEM HAPPY DOING IT. SOMETIMES SWAPPING FOOD BOWLS BUT A LOUD 'NO' AND THEY'RE BACK TO THEIR OWN. AS TO LETTING MISI HAVE SOME PEACE...IF MISI IS HAVING A NAP LOLA IS HAPPY TO HAVE ONE TOO-SHE SEEMS TO FOLLOW WHAT MISI DOES. AFERNOON TIME SEEMS TO BE LOLAS PLAY TIME AND THAT'S WHEN THINGS GET ROUGH. THE TRIGGER SEEMS TO BE TOYS! I ALWAYS GET 2 IDENTICAL TOYS FOR THEM BUT THE MINUTE ONE HAS HERS IN HER MOUTH THE OTHER ONE WANTS IT. USUALLY A LOUD 'NO' IS ENOUGH TO SEPERATE THE GIRLS AND GIVE THEM THE SAME TOY EACH BUT WITHIN SECONDS THEY FIGHT (NEVER AS SERIOUSLY AS LAST NIGHT) OVER THE ONE TOY.
    ONE MORE THING - IS IT OK TO TAKE LOLA FOR A WALK ON HER OWN AND LEAVING MISI AT HOME ON HER OWN? WILL THAT CAUSE JEALOUSY? MISI IS NOT A FAN OF WALKING BY THE WAY AND LOLA IS.
    PS. LOLA ISN'T AS PLAYFUL TODAY AND KEEPS HER DISTANCE FROM MISI A BIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozeymum View Post
    yes...sometimes dogs just get annoyed with eachother. Lola was probably annoying missi...she might have had a bad day..not feeling 100% ect and she just had enough and put lola in her place.

    When i got candy...it took falcon about 8 weeks before he actually played with her...even now he'll let candy know when he's had enough (it's funny though because falcon is tiny compared to candy...and she doesn't seem to care when he gets serious...so i help him out and take candy away from him for a while for some time out).

    I wish it was like that with kids...arghhhhh...fight fight fight...lol
    thank you ozeymum ! It all makes sense. And i was ok with little tiffs here and there but last night really shocked me. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post

    Kids are definitely more feral that dogs!! Mine seem to never stop fighting sometimes!!

    They should be ok Magdalena, everyone has disagreements sometimes. Good advice from Nic about supporting your older dog in maintaining her position above the youngster too. Youngsters are always going to challenge authority sometimes - am thinking kids and teenagers again!!
    Sympathy for your rug too...
    THANKS NATTYLOU
    YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL !
    OH...AND THE RUG IS ALL OK NOW X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    HI EVERYONE !
    TONIGHT I BROKE UP A FIGHT BETWEEN MY 2 GIRLS! IT SCARED THE ....OUT OF ME. MISI IS A 5 YEAR OLD STAFFY AND SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WITH OTHER DOGS, CATS, BIRDS. LOLA IS A 6.5 MONTH OLD X RESCUE PUP THAT UP UNTIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO WAS VERY SBMISSIVE AND POSSIBLY BULLIED BY OTHER DOGS. LOLA LOVES MISI BUT MISI PUTS UP WITH LOLA.
    TONIGHT THEY WERE PLAYING ON THE LOUNGE FLOOR WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE GROWLING GOT LOUD, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF CRYS COMING FROM LOLA AND THEY WERE ROLLING AROUND OUT OF CONTROL. I THOUGHT MISI HAD LOLA BY THE NECK BUT IT WAS BY HER COLLAR. I STARTED TO SCREAM AND CALL THEIR NAMES BUT THEY WOULDN'T STOP. LUCKLY I KEEP A SPRAY BOTTLE WITH WATER NEAR ME FOR JUST IN CASE AS MISI IS REALLY SCARED OF IT. IT WORKED! THEY STOPPED AND BEEN IGNORING EACH OTHER SINCE. FOR A FEW MINUTES AFTERWARDS MISI HAD BIG DROOLS HANGING FROM HER MOUTH - NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE...AS FOR LOLA...WHILE IN THE FIGHT SHE ACTUALLY WEE-ED HERSELF AND POO-ED HERSELF ( YEP - ALL OVER THE LOUNGE ROOM RUG)
    THESE 2 ARE NOT MY FIRST DOGS. I'D SAY I'M A PRETTY EXPERIENCED DOG OWNER BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD MORE THAN ONE DOG AT A TIME. THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME AND I'M SCARED THAT I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE GIRLS. BRFORE GETTING LOLA JUST OVER 2 MONTHS AGO, I READ BOOKS AND DID RESEARCH THE TOPIC OF GETTING ANOTHER DOG ON THE NET BUT TO BE HONEST, AFTER TONIGHT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...WHETHER THIS IS NORMAL TO FIGHT ONCE IN A WHILE. WHETHER THEY NEED TIME OUT FROM EACH OTHER ONCE IN A WHILE? WHETHER TO IGNORE FUTURE FIGHTS? (THERE WAS NO BLOOD/INJURIES). ANY ADVICE ABOUT KEEPING 2 DOGS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

    I've said it before and I will say it again - I do not like female dogs together. Without knowing your situation is sounds as though your youngest bitch is starting to mature and they are starting to establish who is the top bitch. Sounds like the older dog has had enough and is trying to assert herself. I would be wary of leaving them alone together for long periods of time until their relationship is properly established.

    When I got Billie she stayed out front when i was out as I didnt trust that she being an older lame dog with dodgy eyes and ear infections and Sandy - who was 14, blind, could barely stand and was deaf as a brick wouldn't fight.

    You need to be calm and sensible. Dont get all hyped up or they will pick it up and be more edgy. Just be calm and learn to watch their body languages

    Fighting will happen but it shouldnt be ignored.

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