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    Hey Y'all,

    Had an incident yesterday with my Dobe Girl, Flirtt, and wondered what others on here thought/ had to say....

    I'd taken both dogs to the footy oval where they had had a HUGE run and was walking them home the long way round so they could cool off before going in their day run. Both were on lead, although my Mom was walking Flirtty which is unusual, usually I hold both leads. The dogs were tired(ish), not pulling along, not lagging behind, just, well, wandering home. Casual and relaxed.

    So, we went up a street which I dont often go up, went past a big bushy tree bordering someone's lawn, and all of a sudden a little white dog (Maltese size) rushed out accross the lawn to the pavement barking and growling and sort of went to nip at Flirtt when Flirtt put her head down to sniff. Well, Flirtt initially wanted to play, but on getting her nose nipped she put her mouth around the little dog. I think she at first thought play, then prey, then "Hey, ****, what was that??!!!". I know she did not break skin, but she did grab it and sort of pick it up, then dropped it. Once she'd dropped it she sort of stood back because mum had given her one almighty correction on the collar. In my opinion she gave the dog a "correction" for nipping her and put it down, she wasn't slavering and hyped and trying to tear it apart... my observation of her behaviour and body langauge was: suprise, then formal action for the nip, then finished (did that make sense?).

    So the little dog yelped and screamed and went on, and the owner rushed over and picked up her dog and gave me one almighty mouthful about my dangerous, viscious dogs. I told her (pretty calmly, I thought) that had her dog been on a leash, it would not have occurred because a) my dogs were on leash and under my control b) my dogs did not initiate contact, her dog rushed over to us and c) I don't feel I can in any way be obligated to be responsible for her dog and d) I couldn't possibly have known before passing the bush that she was out in her yard with her dog and no restraints on the dog. At this point both my dogs were just kinda standing there beside us- not hyped and on the attack type thing...

    So this woman said "but I just brought him out to put in the car" (the dog), and I reiterated that without any type of front fence a leash is a pretty good idea to prevent these things occurring.... well, I got another mouthful, threats that she will complain to local council about my dogs being aggressive and she darn well near punched me. Meanwhile she's holding the bloody little white thing and reinforcing it like crazy.

    So, I feel pretty wronged, and I hope like crazy she does not complain to council... here in Vic the laws around working breeds are pretty harsh... and I was wondering if anyone else had a different perspective to mine? Should I have done something different?

    I'll listen to any comments/ opinions!

    Thanks in advance :-)

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    Hi,

    Flirtt did what she was supposed to do...protecting herself. She was on leash, the swf was loose, your mum intervened when necessary.....the swf owner should have just checked and moved on.

    I understand your concern as a dobe owner but don't worry everything will be fine.
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    I dont think there is much else you could have done. If the woman makes a complaint it was her dog out of her control and her dog that bit your dog on the nose. Your dog didnt break the skin or hurt the dog and was under your control and was merely protecting herself, regardless of the size of the other dog.

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    You did and said all the right things. Good on you.

    Must have pretty frightening just the same.

    Idiot owners ruin it for all dog owners and sadly you ran straight into one!!!

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    I think you need to pre-empt report to council and do it yourself.

    In most states, dogs are not allowed off lead on the footpath, and they're not allowed to menance or attack other dogs, which is what the SWF did to your doberman. You know where it lives. I'd report it first - just in case she tries to claim your dog ran onto her property and attacked her dog. The owner needs to get an attitude adjustment because her dog is going to get killed if she lets it behave that way, and it will be her fault.

    If it happens again, and you're quick enough, get between the dobe, and the SWF, and yell loudly at the SWF to GO HOME.

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    I just had this happen to me.. Just took skip for a walk and had a small white dog come and try attack skip.. Skip wanted to play with the dog but I keep walking.. The dog was out the front of a house.. If it did attack skip I would of kicked it.. Didn't see the owner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I think you need to pre-empt report to council and do it yourself... If it happens again, and you're quick enough, get between the dobe, and the SWF, and yell loudly at the SWF to GO HOME.
    You may be right about reporting to the council, although I have found on numerous occasions previously that it makes not one darned bit of difference. It DOES leave a paper trail, though. I've complained about one swf that has bitten myself and my mom on three occasions out on the footpath across the street from it's house and reports to council are met with almost an air of annoyance.

    How come it is always the big dog in the wrong, regardless of the circumstances?

    I find that every single day when I walk with my dogs (and we walk twice per day 7 days per week) I have at least one instance of a small dog off lead coming over to my dogs in an aggressive manner (and it can be either assertive or defensive aggression). In all cases I hold my dogs back (not too hard because they're reasonably well trained, but sometimes they can be bouncy when confronted which looks bad) and encourage the dog to go away. Invariably there is an owner someplace close calling futilely for their dog to recall, which it never does. I tell all these people that their dogs should be on lead in public places, but I get a mouthful every time... some owners are more agressive than others but noone takes my advice as it is meant; well meaning.

    Which leads me to another question: Can anyone out there give me one good reason to walk a dog off lead? (With the exceptions of in an off leash park, in a fully enclosed space with gates shut, or at an obedience/ agility trial, or at a training facility).

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    I don't think any dog should be off lead, like you said except off leash parks, which I wouldn't go to anyway.
    One of our dogs is a rescue JR and she is reactive. From my point of view it's frustrating when dogs rush at her from no where. Not long ago a GR came out from someones front yard and tried to take a piece of her butt.
    It's so frustrating to walk your dogs these days as you never know what's around the corner. There have been two viscous dog attacks near work. Both dogs were on leash and were attacked by off leash dogs. I'm not even sure one of the dogs survived.
    Anyway you have done nothing wrong and did everything right.

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    We walk skip off the lead all the time.. She is a sheep dog in training.. She needs to learn how to act off lead cos when she goes to work with OH, she will be never on the lead.. And when OH isn't using her, her will be in her dog box..

    We only walk her in certin places off the lead..

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    Im the opposite of you Molly.
    My dogs are only on leads when they have to be.

    As for the OP, not your fault at all. No dog is 100% 'bomb proof' and no one can ever tell 100% of the time how a dog will react in certain situations.
    Im sure if Flirtt was a SWF, the other owner would have laughed and thought it was cute, but because Dobes are 'big and scary' its a different story.
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