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Thread: Thoughts from Breeders on Certain Crossbreeds?

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    No monkey-fighting

    Serious q's really.

    I know breeders & AKC are against crossbreeds, but what if it was for the best for that breed?

    i.e. Pugs with their breathing problems, solved by pugaliers, which extends the snout or Tea-cup chi's and the fact they are getting so small there eyes don't really fit in their sockets creating a bug-eyed look?

    I am really after the fact-able answers from Breeders/Purebred activists, as I am aware of the reasons for purebreds etc, but over a lot of years, because of some lines, their are breeds/sub-breeds of purebreds that have been created that have health problems pricisely because of image, and how people wanted to change the breed standard.

    Your thoughts?

    (You will learn I often have these sort of philisophical debates/threads at night, and playful ones during the day LOL)

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    A well bred pug will not have breathing problems.


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    I believe mixing breeds is multiplying issues and I am against purposely bred cross breeds. I also believe there is a dog breed out there for everybody and for everything, so I don't see the need to cross really.

    That is not to say cross breeds are not cute...great family pets etc

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    Hey why'd my picture get removed, don't people have a sense of humor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Hey why'd my picture get removed, don't people have a sense of humor
    what picture? there was no picture in your post...

    If there was and I had edited it...it would state on the bottom that I had edited it and why
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 07-22-2010 at 07:11 AM.

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    Assumed it was edited out, it was there when I posted it ... strange

    It was one of those "your argument is invalid" pictures for those playing at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Assumed it was edited out, it was there when I posted it ... strange

    It was one of those "your argument is invalid" pictures for those playing at home
    try again...it might come up

    try it through photobucket IMG code

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    Ahh thanks

    I am not too smart when it comes to purebreds and all the associated breeding, I leave that upto the wonderful breeders (and how you guys do it, I don't know, you deserve a medal) all I have seen is the fallouts from BYBs etc.

    I was unaware a well bred pug shouldn't have breathing problems. I have come across quite a number of pugs (including a pair that live up the road) that have snort breathing, and worrying aponea whilst sleeping. Its nice to know properly bred pugs do not have this problem.

    I am not as a generality fond of smaller dogs, but found the pug x cavaliers cute, but after researching decided they seem to be rather similar to a foxy with high activity in such a small dog.

    I feel the same way, that there should be more rules in Aus about breeding, and laws about who can breed, the odd accidental pregnancy is okay, as you can't stop everything, but the amount of puppies in my local paper lately scares me. I also believe some breeds should be breeded less. The 2 top breeds we saw through the shelters was Maltese & ****zus, these particular breeds seem to be everywhere, and the poor states some of them came in like

    I love my crossbred dogs, but I do not believe people should be making crossbreeds purposely, but was quite naive on the fact of some problems with certain breeds, hence why I asked the q'. I spose thats what the inbreeding I read about is for, to notice and solve those problems.

    Thanks for your answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back2Basics View Post
    I love my crossbred dogs, but I do not believe people should be making crossbreeds purposely
    First generation cross-breed dogs can give rise to hybrid vigour, (Heterosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) meaning they're superior to their parents, but subsequent generations may end up with the problems associated with both breeds.
    I know a friend who 'ordered' a first generation Labradoodle precisely because of the hybrid benefits, but I think this is little better than a BYB and I dread to think of the state of the parent dogs.

    Saying that though, I had an interesting discussion with a woman with a phD in genetics at Auckland University and asked what she though of the dog breed situation. "Stick them all in one big field and let them all breed together, we'd end up with a single healthy dog breed " was her reply. Makes sense but it might take a while and it would be boring to end up with one generic breed!

    Personally I have a RSPCA ex-farm dog with ACD, border collie and kelpie somewhere in there and she's fantastic. I wouldn't swap her for any "hybrid vigour" dog or pedigree dog in the world

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    Actually...you can stop the odd accidental mating...easy peasy...by desexing

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