Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 47

Thread: Thoughts from Breeders on Certain Crossbreeds?

  1. #11

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Actually...you can stop the odd accidental mating...easy peasy...by desexing
    Bingo!

    Yes, first generation 'hybrids' can be healthier than the purbreds used to make them, but second generation is where you have problems.
    If you have a Poodle with the PRA gene and breed it to a Labrador that doesn't have it then the puppies will NOT have the gene... but they can be carriers for it.
    So if you then breed that puppy to another carrier there is a good chance the puppies from that mating will end up having PRA.
    So the first generation of "Labradoodle" is clean, no problems. But the second generation has big problems.

    Good breeders also do genetic testing on their dogs to try and eliminate any problems the dog may pass on. So problems like PRA with reputable breeders are non-existant.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    803

    Default

    Maybe ppl need to realize that all the pure breeders were cross breds many many years ago

  3. #13

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    Maybe ppl need to realize that all the pure breeders were cross breds many many years ago
    That is true, but every breed was 'created' for a purpose.
    When just whacking 2 dogs together and creating a mixed breed there is no purpose for them other than pets (or money)

    Look at Great Danes for example, obviously they are a created breed but certain breeds would have been mixed together to achieve the desired temperament and appearance needed to do their job.
    They had to have the strength to bring down a wild boar and hold it down, but the speed and agility to catch one. Their temperament had to be calm but bold.

    What purpose does a "Beagalier" or a "Labradoodle" have?

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    803

    Default

    Labraoodle were bred for ppl that are allegic to dog hair.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Near Newcastle, NSW
    Posts
    4,215

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    Labraoodle were bred for ppl that are allegic to dog hair.
    didn't I read somewhere in here that the guy who actually started the whole oodle craze regrets it now or am I dreaming?

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    803

    Default

    I have seen that too.. He probably regretting it cos he started the designer breed craze..

    But ppl do to realize that pure bred are made from cross breeds.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Near Newcastle, NSW
    Posts
    4,215

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    I have seen that too.. He probably regretting it cos he started the designer breed craze..

    But ppl do to realize that pure bred are made from cross breeds.
    of course they are...I think everybody realises that

    I think it is the purposely badly bred crosses people have an issue with...the ones bred with no regard to the pups and they future health

  8. #18

    Default

    Nope, not dreaming Cleas, he originally started the project to try and breed an allergy friendly guide dog.

    He failed. Admitted he failed, and BYB's and puppy mills just ran with the 'guide dog' story leaving out the 'fail' part!

    Even after many. many generations they still cannot get a consistent Labradoodle coat.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Near Newcastle, NSW
    Posts
    4,215

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Nope, not dreaming Cleas, he originally started the project to try and breed an allergy friendly guide dog.

    He failed. Admitted he failed, and BYB's and puppy mills just ran with the 'guide dog' story leaving out the 'fail' part!

    Even after many. many generations they still cannot get a consistent Labradoodle coat.
    it is really sad actually!

    I am sure he had the right ideas, but you would think after many generations it would be put down to a "FAIL"...sigh
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 07-24-2010 at 05:47 AM.

  10. #20

    Default

    An extra sad part of that is that there are already several low allergy breeds that can be used as guide dogs, so even the initial idea was way off.

    From the original post - I personally think crossing a cav with a pug is disasterous. Both breeds when not bred with care can have skull issues. Why double that up? The worst kind of carelessness. They are bred to satisfy a misguided market driven by mis information about health issues and genetics - in short, bred for profit stemming from ignorance.

    Yes all breeds initially come from crossing. But it was with an aim in mind, not just willy nilly. Crossing different breeds to aim for something new also creates a lot of imperfect dogs. In the history of many older breeds culling was of the harsh variety and these ones that didn't suit the aims of the breeding program were disposed of. In modern times the term "culling" more often relates to desexing and removal from the breeding prgram.

    But with so many dogs these days in need of homes a moral question is raised by the production of lots more just to satisfy someone's curiousity about whether they can create a new breed when there is already such a wide variety in existence. Could you find perfect homes for 20 mixed breed pups while you ran on the good one or two for the next generation of a breeding program?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •