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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    I am absolutelly against desexing at such early age!
    It doesn't have to be 6 months either, but 8 weeks is plain sick.
    Alot of people will do this now due to puppy farms and bybs just breeding the crap out of dogs. Sorry but that is sick, I would rather desex younger if I bred dogs cause some of my friends have had people lying to them and say they only wanted pets. They bred from the right from the first season, and unfortunately once they are sold the breeder cant do anything about it.

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    If she comes into season she NEEDS to be completely enclosed, roof and all. Six foot is no barrier to some dogs (and bitches can also become super strong acrobats when they're in season - I've had timber gates smashed to pieces so steel is recommended!).

    She should be desexed before oestrus occurs if she is not to be bred from, without a doubt.

    The issue with early desexing in males relate to slight differences in physical appearance and coat development. They will grow more coat if not desexed, and may get bigger around the neck/chest.

    In pets it really makes no difference. Look up photos online of horses - the different look between a stallion and a gelding - negligible. But behaviour difference? HUGE!

    Desexing is far more important than some imagined ideal of a slight appearance difference.

    Females left undesexed through a first season run an increased risk of uterine infection and false pregnancy (VERY common in dogs) which can have adverse effects on physical and mental health. They will also lose their coat - if you have a medium or long coated breed - 8 weeks afterwards, without fail.

    Desex as soon as you can. The benefits are plain.

    I have never heard of a valid medically or otherwise backed-up reason for delaying - just vague suspicions and ideas.
    Last edited by Nattylou; 03-04-2009 at 11:09 AM.

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    Its up to you if your dog is safe and secure there is no problem in waiting.

    There is an increase in joints taking longer to close by desexing before maturity. leading to taller dogs and in some cases dysplastic hips in large breeds.


    I have never heard of a valid medically or otherwise backed-up reason for delaying - just vague suspicions and ideas.
    Stay tuned. I will find some for you over the next few days.

    Just a couple i will add to as i find them, most will be very indepth reading not flippant in context.


    http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf
    conclusions of above link
    CONCLUSIONS
    An objective reading of the veterinary medical literature reveals a complex situation with respect to the longterm
    health risks and benefits associated with spay/neuter in dogs. The evidence shows that spay/neuter
    correlates with both positive AND adverse health effects in dogs. It also suggests how much we really do
    not yet understand about this subject.

    On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for neutering most male dogs to prevent future
    health problems, especially immature male dogs. The number of health problems associated with neutering
    may exceed the associated health benefits in most cases.

    For female dogs, the situation is more complex. The number of health benefits associated with spaying may
    exceed the associated health problems in many (not all) cases. On balance, whether spaying improves the
    odds of overall good health or degrades them probably depends on the age of the dog and the relative risk
    of various diseases in the different breeds.

    The traditional spay/neuter age of six months as well as the modern practice of pediatric spay/neuter appear
    to predispose dogs to health risks that could otherwise be avoided by waiting until the dog is physically
    mature, or (perhaps in the case of many male dogs) foregoing it altogether unless medically necessary.

    The balance of long-term health risks and benefits of spay/neuter will vary from one dog to the next.
    Across-the-board recommendations for all dogs do not appear to be supportable from findings in the
    veterinary medical literature.
    Another link below, actually there is quite a bit on the net about it.

    Please note i am not advocating not desexing or anything, but having informed reading material is paramount. But yes i am agains t the practice of pediatric spay/neutering and will never have it done to a dog so young.

    Rescues have a vested interest in early pediatric desexing, and so they are about trying to stop the flow of puppies from going into pounds at a later stage. that is there interest not health. Most vets of course will not say no to desexing, desexings are the vets bread and butter operations, but most would know the vital role hormones play in canine development both physical and mental and take that into account..

    http://jvanhorn.com/Neuter_Or_Not.htm


    Beau
    Last edited by Beau; 03-04-2009 at 01:17 PM. Reason: to add in site links

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    Thanks Beau.

    It is interesting. I suppose you have to have a vet you trust to evaluate your dog and weigh up the benefits/risks etc on a personal level.

    I suppose as well as health wise, behaviour is a big aspect for many owners when considering desexing. I haven't read up on that one...

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    Thanks for all the info ppl

    I have decided to get her done in the next few weeks (she'll be 6 months).

    I've even got 1/2 price discount...wahooo

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    Thumbs up All the best

    6 months is the standard age, there should not be any problems. she'll be up and bouncing around in no time . Beware of getting your shins crashed into buy the elizabethen collar they have to wear over the head untill the stitches come out lol.

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    Thumbs up

    Yay for half price - don't forget you get a chance to spoil her if she think's she's been hard done by!

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    My pup lola is 6.5 months and i kept wondering what the right time was...i finally decided and had her done 8 days ago. Dropped her off in the morning and picked her up that night. She was very sad and drugged that night and the looks i was getting were like she'd never forgive me...next morning she woke me up all bouncy and back to her old self. She didn't even need her elizabethian collar....i'm sooo proud! He, he. But seriously, she's recovered really well and i don't wish i waited. I've seen a slight change in her...she seems more mature...calmed down a bit...and even though she's always been a good pup she seems to listen more. She's also dropping a whole heap of hair like never before could be a reaction to the drugs or stress of surgery. I also feel like her recovery time brought us even closer since i couldn't help myself but spoil her a bit with treats and cuddles. She looks at me now as if to say thanks for fussing over me... all the best !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    My pup lola is 6.5 months and i kept wondering what the right time was...i finally decided and had her done 8 days ago. Dropped her off in the morning and picked her up that night. She was very sad and drugged that night and the looks i was getting were like she'd never forgive me...next morning she woke me up all bouncy and back to her old self. She didn't even need her elizabethian collar....i'm sooo proud! He, he. But seriously, she's recovered really well and i don't wish i waited. I've seen a slight change in her...she seems more mature...calmed down a bit...and even though she's always been a good pup she seems to listen more. She's also dropping a whole heap of hair like never before could be a reaction to the drugs or stress of surgery. I also feel like her recovery time brought us even closer since i couldn't help myself but spoil her a bit with treats and cuddles. She looks at me now as if to say thanks for fussing over me... all the best !
    Thanks for sharing
    I have Candy booked in for next Thursday...I too hope she settles down a little, she's like handling a horse atm!!! LOL

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    Stress will make a dog drop hair, it will pass

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