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    Hey, I am hoping someone can help me enlighten me as to why dogs are de-barked?

    I truely do not understand...........

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    Hi Bonnie,

    I have a de-barked dog. She had been de-barked prior to my pruchasing her due to the follwoing reason:

    Her previous owner lived in suburbia to my understanding and my dog was a prolific barker. The whole neighbours complaining saga began, and after a lengthy process of trying different things to kurb it and stop the problems, the option of surgical de-barking was considered.
    The owner owned her home, so oculdn't exactly up and move easily, so after long ocnsideration (or as long as she was granted by council anyway) the dog was de-barked.

    It is something I have never had the need to do for any of my dogs throughout my life, but I CAN understand why some ppl come to that decision. Sometimes the alternatives are either relocating their dog, or PTS. Therefore in those circumstances I do comprehend that de-barking is the better option.

    It's a subject that ppl tend to feel strongly about. I don't judge my dog's previous owner whatsoever for the decision they made. If anything I applaud that decision, as without it my dog may not be alive today.

    TBH, after living with her I must admit that I am discovering that it really isn't a con, if anything the fact that she is de-barked has many pro's for us.
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    New laws in Tasmania enable councils to seize 'nuisance dogs' including frequent loud barkers.
    I can see how it would be beneficial in those circumstances.
    The dog still thinks it's barking, it still 'barks' just not much sound comes out.

    Downfalls are recovery time, and that the operation is not always 100%

    edit - of course my first preference is always for non-surgical methods (bark collar etc) but as a last resort I have no problem.

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    I am like DA I have de-barked dogs from suburban owners who had to get it done.
    And I even have an example of it not working 100%, Buzz is such a talker that he can still bark normaly even after his previous owners de-barking him.
    I personally do not have the need to do it, I live on 160 acrs so no one to anoy, but I can understand why some people would do it as a last attempt to keep their dog with them.

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    Like DA, I have a de barked dog that came from a breeder who lived in an estate and the neighbours or body corporate, demanded she had them de-barked or she would have to stop breeding or sell and move.

    Miley can still bark loud enough to get her needs met, but not annoy the neighbours.

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    I've always wondered about debarking, does it seem to effect the dog in any way, ie does it cause distress or does the dog just accept it and behave normally? I've never had to debark a dog either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mollinator View Post
    I've always wondered about debarking, does it seem to effect the dog in any way, ie does it cause distress or does the dog just accept it and behave normally? I've never had to debark a dog either.
    Although I have known and do know plenty of de-barked dogs, my current dog is the first de-barked one I have perosnally owned, Mollinator.

    She would have no clue whatsoever she has been de-barked. She'll bark away to her heart's content if she feels the need. Lol.
    The bark that remains with each de-barked dog differs between them.

    As pointed out by another member above, the op wasn't 100% successful and the dog still has a bark. For ops that are successful, the bark tends to come out as a husky sound. You can still clearly hear thre bark tone underlying the sound, but the noise level (for want of a better description) is taken away, or down considerably.
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    I've seen various breeds de-barked at shows. If you have lots of dogs like breeders do but still live in a built up area then just one barker in your house can set off all the others and also teach upcoming puppies to bark.

    In NSW there must be 3 separate complaints to council then all other options exhausted before a dog can be de-barked. The Vet actually has to put in an application to have it done. That's if it is to be done legally.

    For the operation to be successful the dog must not bark for about 14 days. Hard for a barker. So the dog generally needs to be shut away from all possible triggers that might cause it to bark otherwise the operation has varying degrees of success.

    The barkers I've seen at shows tend to continue on barking non the wiser that they are making no noise. Body language is a more important tool for dog communication than it's bark.

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    Here is another example of a de-barking circumstance, Bonnie.

    Up the hill way back behind me are some GSDs that really do go off. Sounds like a pound of dogs going mental, but in reality it is only two. Now they don't bother me, but they sure would if I lived closer or had a husband on night shift or babies that needed sleep. I am aware that some neighbours further back from me have an issue with it, understandably, so who knows whether those GSDs are going to end up at the vets for a de-barking op?

    Up the hill in another direction is a Dobermann breeder with several de-barked dogs. She's been there, done that, and now lives happily without her dogs bothering any neighbours.
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    Yep, I am with the others on this. A last resort when all else has been tried and dog would have to be rehomed or PTS.

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