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    Hi

    I am just wondering the difference between the American Staffy& English staffy? I am contemplating buying a staffy, I have grown up with one although was a cross. Are they good natured? Good with kids? Non aggressive? Good guard dogs? They are definetly not related to the pitbull?. Can any one help.

    Cheers Nel

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    They are two completely separate breeds. What gets called an "English Staffy" is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

    The old breeds of working type bulldog and terrier anscestors spread out with British people as they moved out into Amercia.

    Put simply, one of the British evolutions of these dogs was the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and one of the Amercian evolutions was the Am Staff.

    So they share a common anscestry prior to the 19th century. Since then they have been divided by the ocean between Britian and America, and maintained as separate breeds.

    Other related breeds are the British Bulldog and Bull Terrier.

    In the early 20th century the name American Stafforsire Terrier was devised. Prior to this the breed had been know as Pit Bull Terriers. This was about the same time as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier in Britain was formally named and recognised.

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    Staffordshire Bull Terrier ("English Staffy")


    American Staffordshire Terrier:


    British Bulldog:


    Bull Terrier (two sizes - standard and miniature):


    Clear as mud? You can find notes on their temperaments on the ANKC site under breed standards. But there are folks on here that have both.

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    Are they good natured? Both Amstaffs and Staffords are good natured if brought up the right way and socialised, but with both breeds, they tend not to back down from a challenge so the new owner needs to keep this in mind.
    Good with kids? Both breeds are great with kids, they can be extremely tolerant of poking and proding from small children.
    Non aggressive? Depends on what your talking about. Both breeds should be good with humans and human aggression should not be tolerated in either breed. Other animals? As said previously, neither breed should back down from a challenge but they should NOT be raving lunatics either.....
    Good guard dogs? Staffords tend to help robbers, Amstaffs are more wary of unknown people and will guard, on saying that, all the Staffords I have had over the years would guard (had a few protection trained in the end)....
    They are definetly not related to the pitbull? Both Staffords and Amstaffs are related to the APBT, which is another fantastic breed with all the above tendacies....

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    Thanks so much for the insight! Sounds like an awesome dog was a great help. :-)

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    and are they similar in intelligence?

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    How do you define intelligence? Both can be trained to high level. Both can be independently minded (ignore what you tell them to do).

    BTW this thread is very old. Like hasn't been posted in since June so OP may have gone.

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    I dont think it is necessary to categorise tyoes of intelligence. It should be relatively simple for somebody who knows to say they are or aren"t as intelligent as each other without splitting hairs. While my SBT is regarded as intelligent it is also clear that a Border Collie is more intelligent and a Boxer less so..I realise it's an old thread but I joined specifically to post the question and it was already there. Normally I post on Dogzonline.com.au in their Staffy lover section of forum.

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    I would imagine if we're going to be vague about what makes one dog more intelligent than another and then perhaps on average - overall - what makes a dog breed more (likely to be) intelligent than another, given there would be a range of ability within any given breed - some dogs of that breed would be smarter than others of that breed. So there would be a range.

    So I would guess that the intelligence range of the breed Amstaff would overlap that of the SBT. And in my experience SBT have a wide variety of ability in thinking skills (trainability or problem solving ability). The trainability one is difficult because it can be stuffed up by the owners.

    And being good at obedience is not the same as being smart and is also strongly influenced by the owner. I often look to see how well the dog is "shaping" its owner's behaviour to judge doggy intelligence.

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    Hey Matt. I'm no expert on them but the ones I've met have lead me to think that the Staffords seem more highly strung, sometimes almost clingy and occasionally prone to anxiousness. I think they like set routines and being close with their families.

    I have found Amstaffs more laid back and casual. Still very devoted family dogs though.

    Depends on the individual as well I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    Hey Matt. I'm no expert on them but the ones I've met have lead me to think that the Staffords seem more highly strung, sometimes almost clingy and occasionally prone to anxiousness. I think they like set routines and being close with their families.

    I have found Amstaffs more laid back and casual. Still very devoted family dogs though.

    Depends on the individual as well I'm sure.
    I agree about the SBT's being clingy and anxious.Thanks for your reply. Thats intesting that the Amstaffs are similar but less clingy..

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